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Message 1179 - Posted 9 Dec 2005 7:04:47 UTC

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    12/8/2005 11:10:01 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Master file download succeeded
    12/8/2005 11:10:01 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
    12/8/2005 11:10:01 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Reason: Requested by user
    12/8/2005 11:10:01 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Requesting 518400 seconds of new work
    12/8/2005 11:10:03 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
    12/8/2005 11:10:03 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|New host venue: home
    12/8/2005 11:10:03 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Successfully attached to SZTAKI Desktop Grid
    12/8/2005 11:10:04 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Started download of search_1.1_windows_intelx86.exe
    12/8/2005 11:10:04 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Started download of msvcp71.dll
    12/8/2005 11:10:13 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
    12/8/2005 11:10:13 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
    12/8/2005 11:10:13 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Reason: To fetch work
    12/8/2005 11:10:13 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Requesting 485254 seconds of new work
    12/8/2005 11:10:15 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Finished download of search_1.1_windows_intelx86.exe
    12/8/2005 11:10:15 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Throughput 21697 bytes/sec
    12/8/2005 11:10:15 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Started download of msvcr71.dll
    12/8/2005 11:10:18 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
    12/8/2005 11:10:18 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
    12/8/2005 11:10:18 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 1 results)
    12/8/2005 11:10:18 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|New host venue: 0
    12/8/2005 11:10:18 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|No work from project


    Checked the host settings - it shows a quota of 500 WU per day....
    Repeated manual updates gets same message.

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    Message 1181 - Posted 9 Dec 2005 8:46:45 UTC

      I and others have the same thing. I do have one WU downloaded on one machine, the others can\'t get work because of the limit is set at one. Adam just needs to change it in the software.

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      Message 1182 - Posted 9 Dec 2005 8:54:49 UTC

        Thanks for the note, I\'ve corrected it, should be working by now...
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        Message 1194 - Posted 9 Dec 2005 12:56:13 UTC

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          Nalam most sem megy. ujracsatlakoztam a projecthez, kaptam egy csomagot, de utana megint azt irja hogy reached daily quota of 1 results. Most ilyenkor pihi holnapig vagy minden csomag utan valasszam le a projectet és csatlakozzak ujra? Mike
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          Message 1197 - Posted 9 Dec 2005 15:08:45 UTC

            I am also getting this problem but it is saying that I have exceeded my max of 2000 results.

            This is odd cosidering my limit is not that high and I have only crunched 3 Sztaki units in the last week!

            cheers,

            Paul.


            09/12/2005 11:53:14||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
            09/12/2005 11:53:17|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
            09/12/2005 11:53:17|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Requesting 26166 seconds of work, returning 0 results
            09/12/2005 11:53:18|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
            09/12/2005 11:53:18|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
            09/12/2005 11:53:18|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 2000 results)
            09/12/2005 11:53:18|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|No work from project
            09/12/2005 11:53:19|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Deferring communication with project for 11 hours, 52 minutes, and 24 seconds
            09/12/2005 11:59:19||request_reschedule_cpus: project op


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            Message 1198 - Posted 9 Dec 2005 15:27:09 UTC

              It seems not working at all !!!
              I still have the limit of daily quota


              09/12/2005 16.30.34|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
              09/12/2005 16.30.34|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Reason: Requested by user
              09/12/2005 16.30.34|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Requesting 8640 seconds of new work
              09/12/2005 16.30.39|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
              09/12/2005 16.30.39|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
              09/12/2005 16.30.39|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 1 results)

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              Message 1202 - Posted 9 Dec 2005 17:40:33 UTC

                I am runing into the dayly Quaota of 1 on both of my machines, even when trying to download the very first of the new WUs.

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                Message 1203 - Posted 9 Dec 2005 17:54:12 UTC - in response to Message 1182.

                  Thanks for the note, I\'ve corrected it, should be working by now...


                  i am still getting this error as well.

                  12/9/2005 12:00:31 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
                  12/9/2005 12:00:31 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Reason: Requested by user
                  12/9/2005 12:00:31 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Requesting 86400 seconds of new work
                  12/9/2005 12:00:36 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
                  12/9/2005 12:00:36 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
                  12/9/2005 12:00:36 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 2 results)

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                  Message 1267 - Posted 10 Dec 2005 22:20:44 UTC - in response to Message 1203.

                    Ok, than I have no figure where the problem is, but I\'ll figure it out...don\'t you worry! :-)

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                    Message 1297 - Posted 12 Dec 2005 17:43:11 UTC

                      Any news on this problem? I\'m still out of work \"Daily quota exceeded...\"

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                      Message 1299 - Posted 13 Dec 2005 0:23:57 UTC

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                        I don\'t think this is the intended way ;) but as a workaround you may detach/re-attach: you should get at least 2 new WUs then :)

                        BTW: on my account page the daily quota is shown as 500 WUs per day/per CPU. Only the BOINC manager tells me that the daily quota of 2 has been reached.
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                        Message 1301 - Posted 13 Dec 2005 1:46:23 UTC

                          I get a a daily quota of 1000 reached after grabbing just 2 for the day.
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                          Message 1306 - Posted 14 Dec 2005 2:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 1267.

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                            Ok, than I have no figure where the problem is, but I\'ll figure it out...don\'t you worry! :-)


                            Adam,
                            Did you see the message elsewhere about LHC having had this problem and it was some sort of dB update missing? Don\'t know if this is right or not but maybe something to look at. It might have been tied to the venue problem.

                            HERE and HERE

                            I was going to post the link to the LHC discussion but it\'s giving me the \"too many connections\" error now so I can\'t get back to it.
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                            Message 1325 - Posted 14 Dec 2005 22:05:57 UTC - in response to Message 1306.


                              Adam,
                              Did you see the message elsewhere about LHC having had this problem and it was some sort of dB update missing?


                              I\'ve seen it, but I\'ve double checked the database and the structure is correct. No columns missing...

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                              Message 1327 - Posted 15 Dec 2005 0:53:57 UTC

                                This computer has a daily WU quota per CPU 2/day (1 CPU) is there anyway to set the minimum to 5 or 10?
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                                Message 1335 - Posted 15 Dec 2005 16:45:55 UTC - in response to Message 1325.

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                                  Adam,
                                  Did you see the message elsewhere about LHC having had this problem and it was some sort of dB update missing?


                                  I\'ve seen it, but I\'ve double checked the database and the structure is correct. No columns missing...

                                  Hmmmm... Don\'t know if this will help but some of this looks like it\'s bleeding into the exported .xml stats files also:

                                  HERE

                                  Note the CPU and OS columns.

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                                  Message 1336 - Posted 15 Dec 2005 17:15:07 UTC - in response to Message 1335.


                                    Adam,
                                    Did you see the message elsewhere about LHC having had this problem and it was some sort of dB update missing?


                                    I\'ve seen it, but I\'ve double checked the database and the structure is correct. No columns missing...

                                    Hmmmm... Don\'t know if this will help but some of this looks like it\'s bleeding into the exported .xml stats files also:

                                    HERE

                                    Note the CPU and OS columns.


                                    This is the same problem LHC had when they upgraded. I beleive it is the validator writing infomation into the wrong columns in the database, Hence you CPU name is now your credit, or a date or some number.
                                    This is probally the same thing affecting the VENUE and QUOTA.

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                                    Message 1375 - Posted 19 Dec 2005 11:35:42 UTC - in response to Message 1297.

                                      Any news on this problem? I\'m still out of work \"Daily quota exceeded...\"


                                      I\'ve the same :(
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                                      Message 1379 - Posted 19 Dec 2005 13:03:22 UTC

                                        Seems to be solved now ;-) Received 17 wus today without any error message.

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                                        Message 1380 - Posted 19 Dec 2005 14:16:54 UTC

                                          The host venue problem is still not solved ;-(

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                                          Message 1381 - Posted 19 Dec 2005 14:27:12 UTC - in response to Message 1380.

                                            Still having problems with this. Some hosts have quotas of 2/day, some have 500/day. Neither set can get work, even when LTD is positive. The server tells me I have hit my quota for the day either way.

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                                            Message 1408 - Posted 22 Dec 2005 12:43:34 UTC

                                              Nálam is a 2 csomagos ?rület van.
                                              El?tte meg a committed other platform.

                                              Most ilyenkor mi a helyzet?


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                                              Message 1411 - Posted 22 Dec 2005 15:50:43 UTC

                                                Hi

                                                no the problem is not solved i still have it
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                                                Message 1427 - Posted 25 Dec 2005 9:28:31 UTC

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                                                  Having had all of 3 (!!) units, it\'s back...

                                                  25/12/2005 10:37:38|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
                                                  25/12/2005 10:37:38|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Reason: Requested by user
                                                  25/12/2005 10:37:38|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Requesting 17280 seconds of new work, and reporting 1 results
                                                  25/12/2005 10:37:43|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
                                                  25/12/2005 10:37:43|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                  25/12/2005 10:37:43|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 500 results)
                                                  25/12/2005 10:37:44||Rescheduling CPU: project suspended, resumed or detached by user

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                                                  Message 1436 - Posted 28 Dec 2005 4:23:20 UTC - in response to Message 1427.

                                                    For me:
                                                    BoincMgr - Message from server: (reached daily quota of 1000 results)
                                                    But I can only download and crunch one WU per day. Host quota from website is 500/day. This has been happening for about one week.

                                                    Last week, the error was Message from server: (reached daily quota of 2000 results) and I could download and crunch 5 per day for a few days, then this went down to 3 units a day for about 3 days. I can\'t check the results page since theyve been deleted.

                                                    Weird observation: Every time I get a new WU, then the BoincMgr requests another one straight away (debt issues I believe) but then it says No work blabla, defer comm. for 21 hours and 46 minutes. It is the same time every day, and then a manual update will change it to 21 hours and 19minutes. So then I get WUs at different times each day, about 2 hours earlier than the previous day.
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                                                    Message 1445 - Posted 31 Dec 2005 5:18:09 UTC

                                                      If I recall, the problem with LHC was that some of the columns had moved because new columns had been added and the validator was sticking the data in the wrong columns. I am wondering if something similar is going on here.
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                                                      Message 1446 - Posted 31 Dec 2005 9:07:16 UTC

                                                        THis and the Venue shoing number problem have both been pointed out as being most likely causd by an error in installing the latest system version. Project insists that this is not so ... In one sense it is not a big thing, but, if they are not interested in fixing the easy stuff ...
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                                                        Message 1447 - Posted 31 Dec 2005 9:09:56 UTC - in response to Message 1446.

                                                          THis and the Venue shoing number problem have both been pointed out as being most likely causd by an error in installing the latest system version. Project insists that this is not so ... In one sense it is not a big thing, but, if they are not interested in fixing the easy stuff ...


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                                                          I stopped doing Predictor@Home becasue they were not responsive ... heck, WCG made an error with my account key, within 24 hours of asking for help it was fixed.

                                                          Rosetta@Home is another good example, though they have not fixed all their problems (vacation got in the way, and I don\'t blame them for taking it), at least they have acknowledged them and have done what they could to mitigate the issues ...
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                                                          Message 1464 - Posted 3 Jan 2006 15:53:16 UTC

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                                                            My two windows machines do get work now, but i set up a linux client, and the daily quota Problem occurs there, too.
                                                            It sometimes sais daily qouta of 1 reached, somtimes it is a daily quota if 500.
                                                            I just got 1 WU on the second day, and after finishing that, it said daily qouta of 2 reached.

                                                            Adam:
                                                            Please check if the validator and other programs use the column names for writing to the database.
                                                            If some columns were added during the update, and the validator uses column numbers instead of the names, the values may end up in the wrong columns.
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                                                            Message 1467 - Posted 4 Jan 2006 13:42:28 UTC

                                                              I have a couple of machines that reach the daily quota of 500 without downloading a single result.

                                                              If the root cause of the problem has been fixed, it may be nessecary to fix the DB so that every host can at least download some work - so that the quota starts to climb again.
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                                                              Message 1471 - Posted 5 Jan 2006 8:22:58 UTC

                                                                I have one XP and one W2K machine attached to this project. The W2K machine received two WUs and then the message \'Daily quota ....\'. The XP machine received 19 WUs and sometimes \'There is work ...\' but no \'Daily quota ...\'.

                                                                Interesting, isn\'t ist ?

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                                                                Message 1474 - Posted 6 Jan 2006 1:15:23 UTC - in response to Message 1467.

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                                                                  I have a couple of machines that reach the daily quota of 500 without downloading a single result.

                                                                  If the root cause of the problem has been fixed, it may be nessecary to fix the DB so that every host can at least download some work - so that the quota starts to climb again.


                                                                  I have 3 machines that are at least downloading a couple of units before hitting the limit, but I have one that hasn\'t been able to download for days and everytime it tries the response is like the following:

                                                                  1/5/2006 7:19:38 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
                                                                  1/5/2006 7:19:38 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Reason: To fetch work
                                                                  1/5/2006 7:19:38 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Requesting 86400 seconds of new work
                                                                  1/5/2006 7:19:43 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
                                                                  1/5/2006 7:19:43 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                  1/5/2006 7:19:43 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 1000 results)
                                                                  1/5/2006 7:19:43 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|No work from project

                                                                  Something needs a kick somewhere as the scheduler obviously either can\'t count or has been given the wrong set of data.


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                                                                  Message 1476 - Posted 6 Jan 2006 4:01:39 UTC - in response to Message 1474.

                                                                    I have a couple of machines that reach the daily quota of 500 without downloading a single result.

                                                                    If the root cause of the problem has been fixed, it may be nessecary to fix the DB so that every host can at least download some work - so that the quota starts to climb again.


                                                                    I have 3 machines that are at least downloading a couple of units before hitting the limit, but I have one that hasn\'t been able to download for days and everytime it tries the response is like the following:

                                                                    1/5/2006 7:19:38 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
                                                                    1/5/2006 7:19:38 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Reason: To fetch work
                                                                    1/5/2006 7:19:38 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Requesting 86400 seconds of new work
                                                                    1/5/2006 7:19:43 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
                                                                    1/5/2006 7:19:43 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                    1/5/2006 7:19:43 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 1000 results)
                                                                    1/5/2006 7:19:43 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|No work from project

                                                                    Something needs a kick somewhere as the scheduler obviously either can\'t count or has been given the wrong set of data.


                                                                    The same thing happened to LHC after their upgrade. For them at least, it seems it was an insertion of a field into the middle of a table in the DB.
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                                                                    Message 1478 - Posted 6 Jan 2006 8:28:16 UTC

                                                                      Try to detach and then attach to project again.

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                                                                      Message 1483 - Posted 6 Jan 2006 22:02:04 UTC - in response to Message 1478.

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                                                                        Try to detach and then attach to project again.

                                                                        I didn\'t think that this solution would work as the problem most definetly is at the server, but I tried it anyway. As you can see it was unsuccessful, but in fact shows that the database has a problem, as the second time I attached (manually) it changed my venue as well, also stating that I had now fullfilled a quota now of only 2 vs. the previous 1000, when no workunits had been supplied at all for this machine. Like JM7 has pointed out previously, this is very similar to a problem that LHC had after it upgraded, it is too similar to be ignored. Would suggest that Adam touch base with Chrulle at LHC. See following report:

                                                                        1/6/2006 4:59:10 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Resetting project
                                                                        1/6/2006 4:59:10 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: exit_tasks
                                                                        1/6/2006 4:59:10 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Detaching from project
                                                                        1/6/2006 4:59:10 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
                                                                        1/6/2006 4:59:59 PM||Fetching config info from http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/get_project_config.php
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:01 PM||Missing account key
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:24 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Master file download succeeded
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:24 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:24 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Reason: Requested by user
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:24 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Requesting 86400 seconds of new work
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:25 PM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:25 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:25 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:25 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|New host venue: home
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:00:25 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Successfully attached to SZTAKI Desktop Grid
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:02:34 PM||request_reschedule_cpus: project op
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:02:36 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Sending scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:02:36 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Reason: Requested by user
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:02:36 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Requesting 86400 seconds of new work
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:02:41 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:02:41 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:02:41 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 2 results)
                                                                        1/6/2006 5:02:41 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|New host venue: 0

                                                                        It also could be associated with the no work issue (first refusal message)and mixing up error code but the host venue issue would indicate that that is not the case.

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                                                                        Message 1486 - Posted 7 Jan 2006 1:58:32 UTC

                                                                          It\'s most likely a server side problem and will hopefully soon be analyzed :

                                                                          Look here (scroll down) : Ad@m\'s BLOG (page 2)

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                                                                          Message 1487 - Posted 7 Jan 2006 2:52:30 UTC

                                                                            it\'s a back-end/DB problem

                                                                            i\'m managing to crunch and return work, but my credit isn\'t going up

                                                                            funnily, my venue \"number\" seems to be what my total credit should be

                                                                            so it\'s got to be the validators/assimilators writing data to the wrong \"cell\" in the table

                                                                            why on earth were column numbers used instead of column names?!
                                                                            using names in the first place would have prevented this problem

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                                                                            Message 1490 - Posted 7 Jan 2006 4:35:54 UTC

                                                                              If anyone has looked at the host XML stats you will notice that p_vendor and p_model are your benchmarks and os_name is your memory. So it looks likely that the columns got messed up. Perhaps Adam could give someone who knows what he\'s talking about access to the db?
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                                                                              Message 1491 - Posted 7 Jan 2006 5:18:30 UTC - in response to Message 1490.

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                                                                                If anyone has looked at the host XML stats you will notice that p_vendor and p_model are your benchmarks and os_name is your memory. So it looks likely that the columns got messed up. Perhaps Adam could give someone who knows what he\'s talking about access to the db?

                                                                                well i don\'t see what all the fuss is about, either the column number needs to be incremented by 1 or 2
                                                                                or (better) column names need to be used, then all is back to normal, save a few little clitches (like hosts not being able to get work, so they can\'t get any new work validated, so they can\'t can\'t get their host data restored to normal)

                                                                                from adam\'s blog he\'s making it sound like a mamoth task
                                                                                LHC had it sorted in a day or 2

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                                                                                Message 1492 - Posted 7 Jan 2006 8:38:21 UTC

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                                                                                  In sched_reply the venue is messed up too :

                                                                                  <host_total_credit>403.329000</host_total_credit>
                                                                                  <host_expavg_credit>14.717675</host_expavg_credit>
                                                                                  <host_venue>1143.3924</host_venue>
                                                                                  <host_create_time>1121175655</host_create_time>

                                                                                  It seems that the program tries to format it with %f or something

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                                                                                  Message 1495 - Posted 7 Jan 2006 10:58:49 UTC - in response to Message 1492.

                                                                                    In sched_reply the venue is messed up too...

                                                                                    the same problem (of some process writing data to the wrong \"cells\" of the table in the DB) is the cause of all these things
                                                                                    and untill it\'s told to where it should write each chunk of data, things won\'t change
                                                                                    all these symptoms are related

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                                                                                    Message 1498 - Posted 7 Jan 2006 16:49:54 UTC

                                                                                      Would be cpu_efficiency and duration_correction_factor then as those entities are the only new ones in the hosts table.

                                                                                      I wonder why the BOINC guys added those just in the middle of the table, that makes text file data exports done with older versions useless

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                                                                                      Message 1500 - Posted 8 Jan 2006 9:56:13 UTC - in response to Message 1498.

                                                                                        Would be cpu_efficiency and duration_correction_factor then as those entities are the only new ones in the hosts table.

                                                                                        I wonder why the BOINC guys added those just in the middle of the table, that makes text file data exports done with older versions useless

                                                                                        The only time this would be a problem is when you violate good programming practice and use SELECT *, if you use good SQL you explicitly name the columns in the order in which you want them to appear in the query. Then, it does not matter where they are in the physical table.

                                                                                        SELECT * is lazy, and causes subtle bugs just like this. Worse, if there was not a data type difference, can lead to very bad things that go undetected for long periods of time.

                                                                                        SELECT *, especially when you are not going to use all of the columns is also expensive as you pull data that is not going to be used. Every byte you move that is not going to be used is a waste of resources.

                                                                                        Specific queries with limits on columns pulled and so forth can also be \"tuned\" because instead of one generic query you now have a \"list\" of them that can be individually adjusted to work with the dataset to be extracted.
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                                                                                        Message 1504 - Posted 9 Jan 2006 9:08:15 UTC - in response to Message 1500.

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                                                                                          The only time this would be a problem is ...


                                                                                          The BOINC PHP scripts usually access the entities by name, not by position, so it shouldn\'t be a problem on that side (they use \"select *\" nearly everywhere though - but that\'s only a bandwidth problem and shouldn\'t affect the function).

                                                                                          But if you migrate into a different database structure and use delimited or SDF text files (created with \"select *\") for the transport, this can be a problem too.

                                                                                          As SZTAKI just lately moved to a new server version, this might be the case here.

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                                                                                          Message 1527 - Posted 14 Jan 2006 5:48:31 UTC - in response to Message 1179.

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                                                                                            Something is up with the SENDING of work, I don\'t think there is a problem creating or making it.. It appears that it\'s only sending one workunit at a time. yadda yadda.. I know.. tell you something new :)

                                                                                            I can ask BOINC to update from SZTAKI when there is a WU deficit, and it will keep grabbing work, one workunit at a time, and SOMETIMES it will say \"there was work present but it was committed to other platforms\".

                                                                                            however, the server status says there are 10k results ready to send.

                                                                                            Oh, and I keep getting the \"new host venue\" message too... but not every time. Host venue 1000 something.... but I don\'t think it\'s # specific.
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                                                                                            Message 1528 - Posted 14 Jan 2006 9:09:45 UTC

                                                                                              Are those of you that are having quota problems running BOINC 5.x.x? I am running 4.45 and do not get this quota problem. I have been tempted to switch to 5.2.13 in order to get better estimates of my WUs so I might have more on hand. If this broblem is 5.x.x specific, then I will wait to upgrade BOINC.

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                                                                                              Message 1529 - Posted 14 Jan 2006 9:43:13 UTC

                                                                                                I run 5.2.13 and never had the quota problem so far.
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                                                                                                Message 1530 - Posted 14 Jan 2006 13:31:08 UTC

                                                                                                  this is a database problem rather than a client problem
                                                                                                  strangely it doesn\'t seem to affect everybody thou, which is odd

                                                                                                  but as users we never really know the full extent of a problem

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                                                                                                  Message 1532 - Posted 14 Jan 2006 17:58:13 UTC - in response to Message 1530.

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                                                                                                    Yeah.. the issue of having to \"force\" my client to download work seems a bit tedious. No reason to not leave it attached to the project, but - my computer could do SO MUCH MORE WORK HERE! My credits at other projects total over 110k!

                                                                                                    Sadly.. because of this problem.. SZDG remains at the bottom of my statistics with a pittance for credit. :(
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                                                                                                    Message 1533 - Posted 14 Jan 2006 17:59:34 UTC

                                                                                                      I have the problem with Quota 500 reached on BOINC 4.72 and various 5.x.x clients

                                                                                                      today i got reached quota of 500 and the last unit i turned in on that machine was TWO days ago
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                                                                                                      Message 1534 - Posted 14 Jan 2006 18:01:54 UTC

                                                                                                        There seems to be a spate of very short running work units about. I have had quite a few that are 0 seconds. Not sure it is a problem on my side as most of the ones I looked at all the other participants also did them as 0 seconds ...
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                                                                                                        Message 1535 - Posted 14 Jan 2006 18:07:13 UTC - in response to Message 1532.

                                                                                                          In an effort to counterbalance the problem I have since given SZDG a resource share of 100 million. At least then it\'ll continuously peg the server for work without me having to force it all the time.
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                                                                                                          Message 1536 - Posted 14 Jan 2006 18:33:23 UTC - in response to Message 1534.

                                                                                                            There seems to be a spate of very short running work units about. I have had quite a few that are 0 seconds. Not sure it is a problem on my side as most of the ones I looked at all the other participants also did them as 0 seconds ...

                                                                                                            been seeing a lot of these myself, but all the ones i checked (which was most of them) were valid, guess it\'s intentional

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                                                                                                            Message 1541 - Posted 15 Jan 2006 1:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 1535.

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                                                                                                              mértékegység elküldés = helytelen mennyiség @ BOINC menetrend kívánság.

                                                                                                              erõs bukdácsolás nagyobb @ BOINC menetrend kívánság = probléma helyzetpont-meghatározás.

                                                                                                              :-D

                                                                                                              ok.. for all I know I could have just told him that my sister likes to sleep with randy goats.. *sigh* that and the damn english BOINC forums don\'t do the correct display of accent marks.
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                                                                                                              Message 1579 - Posted 23 Jan 2006 23:51:19 UTC - in response to Message 1541.

                                                                                                                the damn english BOINC forums don\'t do the correct display of accent marks.

                                                                                                                it\'s an encoding problem, the web dev team are working on it, however unicode isn\'t the easiest of things to implement properly

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                                                                                                                Message 1581 - Posted 25 Jan 2006 14:07:56 UTC

                                                                                                                  Is any work happening on fixing this? It\'s been almost 2 months.
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                                                                                                                  Message 1590 - Posted 29 Jan 2006 1:09:38 UTC - in response to Message 1581.

                                                                                                                    Is any work happening on fixing this? It\'s been almost 2 months.


                                                                                                                    All I know is, I\'m letting my comps get me into the top 900, and then I\'m probably gonna suspend the project until this is fixed.

                                                                                                                    My CPU\'s process 1100+ credits a day, I can only get them to do 58/day here, when I have the resource share at 99.99%.


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                                                                                                                    Message 1591 - Posted 29 Jan 2006 5:36:39 UTC - in response to Message 1590.

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                                                                                                                      Is any work happening on fixing this? It\'s been almost 2 months.

                                                                                                                      then I\'m probably gonna suspend the project until this is fixed.

                                                                                                                      I for one already have, if adam hasn\'t got the time or can\'t be bothered to fix the project, then obviously my results aren\'t that valuable :(

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                                                                                                                      Message 1592 - Posted 29 Jan 2006 11:04:49 UTC

                                                                                                                        This project is suspended on all my workstations until the problems with the database are solved ...

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                                                                                                                        Message 1593 - Posted 29 Jan 2006 11:40:04 UTC - in response to Message 1592.

                                                                                                                          This project is suspended on all my workstations until the problems with the database are solved ...

                                                                                                                          Same for me...

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                                                                                                                          Message 1594 - Posted 29 Jan 2006 19:46:15 UTC

                                                                                                                            The project is going down the pan!!
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                                                                                                                            Message 1595 - Posted 29 Jan 2006 20:23:20 UTC - in response to Message 1594.

                                                                                                                              The project is going down the pan!!

                                                                                                                              I was thinking that, nothing seems to be happening, not even a \"i\'m busy for the next month or so, sorry folks, but things to do, don\'t worry about the project, i\'ll fix it as soon as current issues are sorted\" sort of things from adam, at least to know what\'s going on

                                                                                                                              I get the impression adam has kinda given up with it for a while due to frustration of not being able to get it working :(

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                                                                                                                              Message 1596 - Posted 29 Jan 2006 20:44:11 UTC

                                                                                                                                If only they would get more people in to help work on it they might have chance to keep up with whatever we are doing here
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                                                                                                                                Message 1600 - Posted 30 Jan 2006 11:59:09 UTC

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                                                                                                                                  Hello!
                                                                                                                                  As far as I can tell work is flowing again ! It also seems that my three pc has got their full quota back an no venue problems in my boinc messages.

                                                                                                                                  Thanks to the team , and happy back at working on the wu\'s!!

                                                                                                                                  Greatings from Norway!

                                                                                                                                  To happy to early &:(

                                                                                                                                  host 8025 got credit and then the host venue message reappered, but the other two with still pending credit got no host venue problems !


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                                                                                                                                  Message 1601 - Posted 30 Jan 2006 20:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 1600.

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                                                                                                                                    I think something might have changed.. I went through 44 work units today at once. That\'s the most I\'ve ever been able to get at one time.

                                                                                                                                    Now it just says that there was work, but it was committed to other platforms.

                                                                                                                                    Also - I did not see the Host Venue message again.
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                                                                                                                                    Message 1602 - Posted 30 Jan 2006 21:45:20 UTC

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                                                                                                                                      The host_venue sent in sched_reply.xml is still wrong but maybe someone told the server to ignore the venues and send what is there to anyone who asks for it. I got some work too :-)

                                                                                                                                      The venue message still comes though, just not everytime now.

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                                                                                                                                      Message 1603 - Posted 31 Jan 2006 2:31:29 UTC - in response to Message 1602.

                                                                                                                                        Yeah, I just got a venue message, so.. forget what I said earlier.
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                                                                                                                                        Message 1604 - Posted 31 Jan 2006 5:06:41 UTC

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                                                                                                                                          Nothing has changed : i see always ->
                                                                                                                                          host venue message
                                                                                                                                          there was work but it was committed to other platforms

                                                                                                                                          and i see also :
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                                                                                                                                          I have a question :
                                                                                                                                          WHO manages this project ?


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                                                                                                                                          Message 1605 - Posted 31 Jan 2006 5:22:48 UTC - in response to Message 1604.

                                                                                                                                            there was work but it was committed to other platforms

                                                                                                                                            and i see also :
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                                                                                                                                            there may be work, but if it needs to be run by other platforms, you won\'t get any, same as predictor

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                                                                                                                                            Message 1606 - Posted 31 Jan 2006 20:04:22 UTC - in response to Message 1605.

                                                                                                                                              there was work but it was committed to other platforms

                                                                                                                                              and i see also :
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                                                                                                                                              Ready to send 438

                                                                                                                                              there may be work, but if it needs to be run by other platforms, you won\'t get any, same as predictor

                                                                                                                                              I run also Predictor and i get this problem very rarely...

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                                                                                                                                              Message 1608 - Posted 3 Feb 2006 2:02:24 UTC

                                                                                                                                                Still Getting this:

                                                                                                                                                03/02/2006 02:03:50|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                                                                                03/02/2006 02:03:50|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 500 results)

                                                                                                                                                when I have received only a single workunit in the last 24 hour. This has been going on since the upgrade to Boinc 5.



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                                                                                                                                                Message 1609 - Posted 3 Feb 2006 7:51:59 UTC

                                                                                                                                                  Maybe we should all suspend the project and see how long it takes for any staff to come on to see why no WU\'s are getting crunched
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                                                                                                                                                  Message 1610 - Posted 3 Feb 2006 13:22:32 UTC - in response to Message 1608.

                                                                                                                                                    Still Getting this:

                                                                                                                                                    03/02/2006 02:03:50|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: No work sent
                                                                                                                                                    03/02/2006 02:03:50|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 500 results)

                                                                                                                                                    when I have received only a single workunit in the last 24 hour. This has been going on since the upgrade to Boinc 5.


                                                                                                                                                    That made me think about it. At home I have some machines, that still run BOINC 4.72 and they get much more work than this laptop I\'m writing this post on, that has 5.2.13 installed. Could they be in any way connected (daily quota problem and BOINC version)?
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                                                                                                                                                    Message 1611 - Posted 3 Feb 2006 17:51:07 UTC

                                                                                                                                                      The server side is messy, it\'s not your client\'s fault.

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                                                                                                                                                      Message 1612 - Posted 4 Feb 2006 1:42:50 UTC - in response to Message 1606.

                                                                                                                                                        there was work but it was committed to other platforms

                                                                                                                                                        and i see also :
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                                                                                                                                                        there may be work, but if it needs to be run by other platforms, you won\'t get any, same as predictor

                                                                                                                                                        I run also Predictor and i get this problem very rarely...

                                                                                                                                                        well with predictor maybe they have plenty of each type of computer

                                                                                                                                                        but this project may not, if those 440 or so units need to be crunched with linux or mac OS, then there\'s not much that can be done, just have to wait for more units to be created

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                                                                                                                                                        Message 1613 - Posted 4 Feb 2006 1:44:00 UTC - in response to Message 1609.

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                                                                                                                                                          Maybe we should all suspend the project and see how long it takes for any staff to come on to see why no WU\'s are getting crunched

                                                                                                                                                          I second that, i\'ve had it suspended for a while, and will only resume when the DB problem is fixed, as i said in a previous post
                                                                                                                                                          not hearing from adam either isn\'t a good sign

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                                                                                                                                                          Message 1615 - Posted 4 Feb 2006 3:11:42 UTC - in response to Message 1605.

                                                                                                                                                            there was work but it was committed to other platforms

                                                                                                                                                            and i see also :
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                                                                                                                                                            Ready to send 438

                                                                                                                                                            there may be work, but if it needs to be run by other platforms, you won\'t get any, same as predictor



                                                                                                                                                            I just registered and tried to load it on BOINC for Mac OSX, and I got the same error. I would guess that most people seeing this use Windows. Is anyone getting work units on Linux?

                                                                                                                                                            If the report that work up to dimention 10 of 11 is done, it would be a shame if the project ended now...

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                                                                                                                                                            Message 1617 - Posted 4 Feb 2006 9:41:51 UTC

                                                                                                                                                              I am on Windows and my BOINC client happily downloads the work
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                                                                                                                                                              Message 1619 - Posted 4 Feb 2006 10:06:22 UTC - in response to Message 1617.

                                                                                                                                                                I am on Windows and my BOINC client happily downloads the work


                                                                                                                                                                Have you been running it since before the upgrade to 5?

                                                                                                                                                                I\'ve two machine: one is chugging away nicely without any major problems. It had been running 4.7, then I upgraded to 5.2. It started to get work again as soon as the server was upgraded. The other machine started out on 5.2 and has only ever been able to get one or two units a day.

                                                                                                                                                                I\'m wondering if it is a post-upgrade machine registration problem, which would be consistent with what looks like a data table structure problem with some data now going into wrong fields so a result looks like a new \'venue\' and/or a \'workunits allocated\' value.

                                                                                                                                                                Just a few thoughts, possibly way off beam...

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                                                                                                                                                                Message 1620 - Posted 4 Feb 2006 10:42:29 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                  Been running it for a while now along time before the server upgrades anyway. I\'m running 5.3.16
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                                                                                                                                                                  Message 1637 - Posted 8 Feb 2006 1:08:53 UTC - in response to Message 1620.

                                                                                                                                                                    Been running it for a while now along time before the server upgrades anyway. I\'m running 5.3.16


                                                                                                                                                                    Isn\'t that a beta version? I\'m running 5.2.13, which is what is available from the BOINC site.

                                                                                                                                                                    Early last week, I was only getting Windows work units. Then, sometime last week, I started getting units on all three of my PC\'s (Win XP, OSX, and Fedora Core 4).

                                                                                                                                                                    One thing I\'ve noticed is that the work units all have a predicted time of over four hours. On my Mac G4 500MHz, the work then burns through in well under an hour. On my fastest processor (Athlon XP 3200+), the predicted time is about two hours, and they are done in about ten minutes. I get credit, so I assume the WU\'s are not bad. I just assumed they were using benchmark times, and they were benchmarked against an old Celeron or Duron processor (or that ratio, and Efficion or Via!).
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                                                                                                                                                                    Message 1653 - Posted 8 Feb 2006 18:04:09 UTC - in response to Message 1637.

                                                                                                                                                                      Isn\'t that a beta version? I\'m running 5.2.13, which is what is available from the BOINC site.


                                                                                                                                                                      Yup that it is

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                                                                                                                                                                      Message 1702 - Posted 10 Feb 2006 18:29:02 UTC

                                                                                                                                                                        @Adam, can you solve the daily quota problem, my is still at 2/per day? :(
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                                                                                                                                                                        Message 1703 - Posted 10 Feb 2006 18:43:43 UTC - in response to Message 1702.

                                                                                                                                                                          Rebirther,
                                                                                                                                                                          the daily quota problem was related to the venue problem and with the disappearing of it also the quota problem has been solved. This is also verified by the performance diagrams. Try to delete the xml files (except for the ones starting with \"account_\") from the project directory and see if that solves your problem.
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                                                                                                                                                                          Message 1704 - Posted 10 Feb 2006 18:45:46 UTC - in response to Message 1702.

                                                                                                                                                                            @Adam, can you solve the daily quota problem, my is still at 2/per day? :(

                                                                                                                                                                            You need perhaps to crunch \"some\" or \"more\" wus before getting a new maximum daily WU quota ?

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                                                                                                                                                                            Message 1705 - Posted 10 Feb 2006 18:50:40 UTC

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                                                                                                                                                                              @Nightbird, Adam: Ok, ok my first result went back and daily quota raised a little bit, see the next result whats happening.

                                                                                                                                                                              Thx for answer ;)

                                                                                                                                                                              Edit: still raising :), very nice
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                                                                                                                                                                              Message 1709 - Posted 10 Feb 2006 19:42:28 UTC - in response to Message 1704.

                                                                                                                                                                                @Adam, can you solve the daily quota problem, my is still at 2/per day? :(

                                                                                                                                                                                You need perhaps to crunch \"some\" or \"more\" wus before getting a new maximum daily WU quota ?

                                                                                                                                                                                Correct. Even though the quota is no longer being corrupted it will take some successfully returned tasks before it will rise back to the project max.
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