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Message 1726 - Posted 11 Feb 2006 13:26:06 UTC

    I want to use an x84_64 computer in SZTAKI Desktop Grid.
    After the solution of venue problem (now everything goes well in x86 platform) I hope that you can make a client in the near future for the AMD64 platform. (Some questions are unanswered in QA section...)
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    Message 1729 - Posted 11 Feb 2006 17:43:45 UTC - in response to Message 1726.

      Just atach the computer to the project. It will use the normal x86 client.
      And if a client for x86-64 is ready, it will be used instead.
      As far as i know, no Other project has come up with an x86-64 client.

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      Message 1731 - Posted 11 Feb 2006 18:16:58 UTC

        Seti@Home Beta :
        Linux/x86_64 ; version 5.05 since 31 Jan 2006
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        Message 1732 - Posted 11 Feb 2006 18:30:50 UTC - in response to Message 1726.

          I want to use an x84_64 computer in SZTAKI Desktop Grid.
          After the solution of venue problem (now everything goes well in x86 platform) I hope that you can make a client in the near future for the AMD64 platform. (Some questions are unanswered in QA section...)

          But for the best juice, I think that we would need an OS 64 bit and a native application.

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          Message 1750 - Posted 12 Feb 2006 22:49:40 UTC - in response to Message 1731.

            Seti@Home Beta :
            Linux/x86_64 ; version 5.05 since 31 Jan 2006


            The Seti@home connection is working but I can\'t join to SZTAKI project.

            This is my error message:
            [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Requesting 43200 seconds of new work
            [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
            [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Message from server: platform \'x86_64-pc-linux-gnu\' not found
            [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] New host venue: work
            [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] No work from project
            [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Deferring communication with project for 23 hours,..
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            Message 1751 - Posted 12 Feb 2006 23:46:57 UTC - in response to Message 1750.

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              Seti@Home Beta :
              Linux/x86_64 ; version 5.05 since 31 Jan 2006


              The Seti@home connection is working but I can\'t join to SZTAKI project.

              This is my error message:
              [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Requesting 43200 seconds of new work
              [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Scheduler request to http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/cgi-bin/scheduler succeeded
              [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Message from server: platform \'x86_64-pc-linux-gnu\' not found
              [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] New host venue: work
              [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] No work from project
              [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Deferring communication with project for 23 hours,..

              The plateform Linux/x86_64 doesn\'t exist for now.
              If your Athlon 64 can work on Linux/x86, it will get wus.

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              Message 1763 - Posted 13 Feb 2006 21:22:42 UTC

                OK, i\'m still waiting for the client...
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                Message 1813 - Posted 16 Feb 2006 21:55:12 UTC - in response to Message 1763.

                  OK, we\'re still working on the client... ;-)
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                  Message 1819 - Posted 16 Feb 2006 22:55:17 UTC - in response to Message 1813.

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                    OK, we\'re still working on the client... ;-)

                    At this speed, soon, you will be the first Boinc project supporting so many different platforms ;)
                    (oops, i forgot Seti@Home Beta)

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                    Message 3733 - Posted 5 Aug 2006 8:34:23 UTC

                      So far, two projects have added support for x86-64: SETI sends the x86 application and SIMAP, a true x86-64 application. Would you consider supporting the platform x86_64-pc-linux-gnu or x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu similarly?
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                      Message 3839 - Posted 18 Aug 2006 19:50:01 UTC - in response to Message 3733.

                        So far, two projects have added support for x86-64: SETI sends the x86 application and SIMAP, a true x86-64 application. Would you consider supporting the platform x86_64-pc-linux-gnu or x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu similarly?

                        Chess960 now supports AMD64 with a native Linux application too.
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                        Message 4114 - Posted 20 Sep 2006 22:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 3839.

                          So far, two projects have added support for x86-64: SETI sends the x86 application and SIMAP, a true x86-64 application. Would you consider supporting the platform x86_64-pc-linux-gnu or x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu similarly?

                          Chess960 now supports AMD64 with a native Linux application too.

                          HashClash now supports AMD64 with a 32-bit Linux application...
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                          Message 4155 - Posted 28 Sep 2006 23:01:58 UTC

                            FWIW, running two instances of the client, one the 32-bit client, the other, the 64-bit client, on the same 4-core system, but limiting each client to 2 cores, I can compare the relative performance of 32-bit and 64-bit SIMAP\'s HMMER: the 64-bit version is about 7% faster.

                            By enabling vectorization (supported by default on AMD64), the SIMAP developers observed other 8% improvement.

                            Bottom line: porting the project application to AMD64 has the potential to improve performance by 15%!

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                            Message 4176 - Posted 2 Oct 2006 0:01:21 UTC

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                              Well, i can put them in the wish list [done] but i\'m afaid that atm this is not the priority of the project.

                              edit :
                              i would add windows_amd64
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                              Message 4248 - Posted 10 Oct 2006 15:21:08 UTC - in response to Message 4114.

                                So far, two projects have added support for x86-64: SETI sends the x86 application and SIMAP, a true x86-64 application. Would you consider supporting the platform x86_64-pc-linux-gnu or x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu similarly?

                                Chess960 now supports AMD64 with a native Linux application too.

                                HashClash now supports AMD64 with a 32-bit Linux application...

                                Guess what? Leiden Classical now supports AMD64 on Linux with a 32-bit application. ;-)

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                                Message 4252 - Posted 10 Oct 2006 17:56:41 UTC - in response to Message 4248.

                                  So far, two projects have added support for x86-64: SETI sends the x86 application and SIMAP, a true x86-64 application. Would you consider supporting the platform x86_64-pc-linux-gnu or x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu similarly?

                                  Chess960 now supports AMD64 with a native Linux application too.

                                  HashClash now supports AMD64 with a 32-bit Linux application...

                                  Guess what? Leiden Classical now supports AMD64 on Linux with a 32-bit application. ;-)

                                  I know, Augustine. ;)
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                                  Message 5679 - Posted 7 Feb 2007 15:38:52 UTC

                                    I\'m happy to see that several projects have started this week to support AMD64. Here\'s an updated list:


                                    • Native 64-bit Application Sent to AMD64 Clients

                                      • SIMAP (Linux)
                                      • Chess960 (Linux)
                                      • ABC ß (Linux)
                                      • Predictor (Linux)


                                    • 32-bit Application Sent to AMD64 Clients

                                      • SETI & SETI ß (Linux)
                                      • HashClash (Linux & Windows)
                                      • Leiden (Linux)
                                      • Malaria (Linux)
                                      • Docking (Linux)
                                      • RieselSieve (Linux & Windows)
                                      • WCG (Linux soon)



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                                    Message 5708 - Posted 13 Feb 2007 18:56:48 UTC

                                      FYI, the new x86-64 Linux client, version 5.8.11, can be found at boinc_5.8.11_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.gz. Again, the x64 Windows client, version 5.4.11, by Crunch3r, at boinc_5.4.11_windows_amd64.zip.

                                      For more information, see BoincStats Forum.

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                                      Message 5719 - Posted 16 Feb 2007 15:33:01 UTC - in response to Message 5708.

                                        FYI, the new x86-64 Linux client, version 5.8.11, can be found at boinc_5.8.11_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.gz. Again, the x64 Windows client, version 5.4.11, by Crunch3r, at boinc_5.4.11_windows_amd64.zip.

                                        As WCG uses HTTPS in the communications with the client, a file with public encryption keys is needed. Download this new x86-64 Linux client, still version 5.8.11, boinc_5.8.11_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.tgz and copy all the files in the tar-ball to your system\'s working BOINC directory.

                                        For more information, see BoincStats Forum.

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                                        Message 5731 - Posted 20 Feb 2007 15:57:17 UTC - in response to Message 5719.

                                          Correction: the x86-64 Linux client, version 5.8.11, can be downloaded from boinc_5.8.11_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.tgz (make sure to copy both files to the BOINC working directory). The new x64 Windows client, version 5.8.11, by Crunch3r, can be found at boinc_5.8.11_windows_amd64.zip.

                                          Update on project applications:


                                          • Native 64-bit Application Sent to AMD64 Clients

                                            • SIMAP (Linux)
                                            • Chess960 (Linux)
                                            • ABC (Linux)
                                            • ABC ß (Linux & Windows)
                                            • Predictor (Linux)
                                            • RieselSieve (Linux)


                                          • 32-bit Application Sent to AMD64 Clients

                                            • SETI & SETI ß (Linux)
                                            • HashClash (Linux & Windows)
                                            • Leiden (Linux)
                                            • Malaria (Linux)
                                            • Docking (Linux)
                                            • RieselSieve (Windows)
                                            • WCG (Linux)
                                            • Pirates (Linux)


                                          For more information, see BoincStats Forum.

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                                          Message 5958 - Posted 21 Mar 2007 22:04:00 UTC

                                            An updated x86-64 Linux client, version 5.8.15, can be downloaded from boinc_5.8.15_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.tgz (make sure to read the file \"README.x86_64-pc-linux-gnu\" in it).

                                            Crunch3r\'s x64 Windows client, version 5.8.11, can be found at boinc_5.8.11_windows_amd64.zip.

                                            For more information, see BoincStats Forum.

                                            HTH

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                                            Message 6038 - Posted 6 Apr 2007 17:08:56 UTC

                                              Here\'s the new recommended version for the x86-64 Linux client:


                                              Again, Crunch3r\'s x64 Windows client can be found at boinc_5.8.11_windows_amd64.zip.

                                              For more information, see BoincStats Forum.

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                                              Message 6533 - Posted 13 Aug 2007 23:48:30 UTC

                                                Here\'s a development version of the x86-64 Linux client:


                                                The official client for x64 Windows client can be found at boinc_5.10.13_windows_x86_64.exe.

                                                The BOINC client 5.10 can now get 32-bit applications from projects that haven\'t added support for AMD64 (e.g., Lattice, SZTAKI, etc), provided that they run at least the BOINC server 5.0.9. However, such AMD64 clients for Windows may not get applications from some projects that supported AMD64 before due to a platform name change, at least until such projects are updated.

                                                For more information, see the BoincStats Forum.

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                                                Message 6993 - Posted 17 Dec 2007 19:28:56 UTC

                                                  Even though there\'s an official AMD64 client for Linux, it refers to too many dynamic libraries and requires a fairly recent Linux setup to run on.

                                                  So, one more time, I\'m making available the AMD64 Linux client here. It refers to a minimal set of standard dynamic libraries whose version requirements should be satisfied by Linux systems up to 2 or 3 years old, however it was built with a fairly recent version of GCC, 4.1.2.

                                                  The drill\'s still the same:


                                                  The official AMD64 Windows client can be found here.

                                                  For more information, see the BoincStats Forum.

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                                                  Message 7226 - Posted 14 Jul 2008 7:45:09 UTC

                                                    Win-x64 don\'t get\'s Wu ((

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                                                    Message 7231 - Posted 22 Jul 2008 20:46:18 UTC

                                                      what OS is better for this project 32bit of 64 bit?

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                                                      Message 7232 - Posted 27 Jul 2008 23:13:08 UTC - in response to Message 7231.

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                                                        what OS is better for this project 32bit of 64 bit?


                                                        \"What OS\"? Well Linux of course! ;-)

                                                        Actually I don\'t know as I only have this project on my WindozeXP boxes at the moment.

                                                        However, and on to what I think you are really asking... Since the apps are all x86 it will make no difference if 32b or 64b OS.

                                                        For other projects (long list now) that support a 64bit app, they tend to see a 4% to 8% improvement in run times. At least one, ABC (long integer based), sees a huge gain... for me going from 32bit Win to 64bit Xubuntu it was around 50%!

                                                        Note: Debian derivative 64b Linux you\'ll need the \"ia32-libs\" package for 32bit compatibility.

                                                        PS: Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Debian now have v5.10.45 in package form. For some reason the .deb package installed v5.10.45 returns better benchmarks on my Xubuntu machines than the one from Berkeley.
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                                                        Message 7233 - Posted 27 Jul 2008 23:57:52 UTC

                                                          With SO many BOINC based projects to choose from these days I had gotten carried away and created a bit of a personal BOINCing mess of what runs on what machine. Well I\'ve slowly got it pretty clean now. I now have almost all of my machines running all the same projects and all under BAM. There are just two exceptions.

                                                          SDG and Orbit.

                                                          With SDG on Windoze and Orbit on the Linux machines.

                                                          Yes, I know they both now support both Win and Linux. But I don\'t want to add another project to the machines. If anything I need 1 less. Decisions, decisions.

                                                          Neither of these projects currently have a x86_64 app. I think the first one to come up with a Linux 64b app gets moved to run on all machines and the other gets dropped.

                                                          Please don\'t read this as a threatening tone, that was NOT the intent. Just a personal decision and possibly a factor for others trying to decide what to run and what not to run.

                                                          It\'s possible that by now SDG has all the machines they need and could care less. Orbit certainly doesn\'t seem to be able to crank out enough work to keep up with demand so I doubt they care.

                                                          Just wanted to air my mental ramblings where the admins might see.

                                                          Skip, #89 on SDG, #1537 on Orbit

                                                          PS: Cross posted on Orbit forums also
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                                                          Message 7234 - Posted 28 Jul 2008 6:48:44 UTC

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                                                            I thought SDG would send me the x86 linux app and all would be fine? BOINC client v5.10.45.

                                                            What did I miss, this is working on some other projects... Is there a thread on this I missed? EDIT: Never mind, found it. As I recall isn\'t this feature also dependent on the server side version... Is that the problem here?

                                                            7/28/2008 1:43:01 AM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Master file download succeeded
                                                            7/28/2008 1:43:06 AM|http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/|Sending scheduler request: Project initialization. Requesting 1 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
                                                            7/28/2008 1:43:11 AM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
                                                            7/28/2008 1:43:11 AM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: platform \'x86_64-pc-linux-gnu\' not found
                                                            7/28/2008 1:43:11 AM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|New host venue: home
                                                            7/28/2008 1:43:13 AM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Started download of stat_icon_02.gif
                                                            7/28/2008 1:43:14 AM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Finished download of stat_icon_02.gif

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                                                            Message 7239 - Posted 31 Jul 2008 10:47:13 UTC

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