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Message 1934 - Posted 23 Feb 2006 10:09:12 UTC

    Something for Adam to do add a line in his database for Mac/Intel people

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    Message 1935 - Posted 23 Feb 2006 13:43:46 UTC - in response to Message 1934.

      Thanks for the note...
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      Message 2868 - Posted 2 Jun 2006 9:46:03 UTC - in response to Message 1935.

        Thanks for the note...


        I see that the Intel Mac is in the projects database but I don\'t seem to get any work. Is there work available or are there plans to create some?
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        Message 2886 - Posted 3 Jun 2006 10:16:04 UTC

          Did you try to attach a machine ?
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          Message 3034 - Posted 16 Jun 2006 17:55:57 UTC - in response to Message 2886.

            Did you try to attach a machine ?

            Yes, I successfully tried it. My machine (Intel Mac) is attached since end of May but I didn\'t get any work yet. It always tells me \"No work sent (there was work for other platforms)\".
            Other projects usually don\'t know the platform at all (or give out work)...
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            Message 4923 - Posted 4 Dec 2006 16:43:45 UTC - in response to Message 3034.

              Did you try to attach a machine ?

              Yes, I successfully tried it. My machine (Intel Mac) is attached since end of May but I didn\'t get any work yet. It always tells me \"No work sent (there was work for other platforms)\".
              Other projects usually don\'t know the platform at all (or give out work)...


              I recently attached an intel mac too...but no work. Does work for intel macs ever exist? On the applications page, it makes no distinction between PPC and intel macs.
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              Message 4926 - Posted 4 Dec 2006 22:22:15 UTC - in response to Message 4923.

                Did you try to attach a machine ?

                Yes, I successfully tried it. My machine (Intel Mac) is attached since end of May but I didn\'t get any work yet. It always tells me \"No work sent (there was work for other platforms)\".
                Other projects usually don\'t know the platform at all (or give out work)...


                I recently attached an intel mac too...but no work. Does work for intel macs ever exist? On the applications page, it makes no distinction between PPC and intel macs.

                It\'s no work for Intel/Mac because the application doesn\'t exist yet.
                The application page needs to do the distinction.

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                Message 4927 - Posted 5 Dec 2006 0:39:34 UTC - in response to Message 4926.

                  I recently attached an intel mac too...but no work. Does work for intel macs ever exist? On the applications page, it makes no distinction between PPC and intel macs.

                  It\'s no work for Intel/Mac because the application doesn\'t exist yet.
                  The application page needs to do the distinction.

                  Thanks. Is there a plan for an intel mac application, and if so, a timeline?
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                  Message 4960 - Posted 6 Dec 2006 22:38:36 UTC - in response to Message 4927.

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                    I recently attached an intel mac too...but no work. Does work for intel macs ever exist? On the applications page, it makes no distinction between PPC and intel macs.

                    It\'s no work for Intel/Mac because the application doesn\'t exist yet.
                    The application page needs to do the distinction.

                    Thanks. Is there a plan for an intel mac application, and if so, a timeline?

                    In theory would be possible but no plan so no timeline.

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                    Message 4964 - Posted 7 Dec 2006 3:57:38 UTC - in response to Message 4960.

                      I recently attached an intel mac too...but no work. Does work for intel macs ever exist? On the applications page, it makes no distinction between PPC and intel macs.

                      It\'s no work for Intel/Mac because the application doesn\'t exist yet.
                      The application page needs to do the distinction.

                      Thanks. Is there a plan for an intel mac application, and if so, a timeline?

                      In theory would be possible but no plan so no timeline.


                      So, why not?

                      One of the criteria for joining a project is that is supports Mac architectures and OS. I am getting the feeling that support for Macs in this project is very minimal indeed.

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                      Message 4968 - Posted 7 Dec 2006 6:32:34 UTC

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                        Check out the stats for a project that openly embraces many OS...for example SETI.

                        http://www.boincstats.com/stats/host_os_stats.php?pr=sah&st=0

                        Notice that Mac (darwin) to Linux is only 6 to 10 for machines. However, also notice that average credit is 2 to 1!! in favor of the mac.

                        So if you want the most bang for your resource buck, replace your Linux efforts with OSX.

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                        Message 5107 - Posted 17 Dec 2006 7:21:47 UTC - in response to Message 4968.

                          Check out the stats for a project that openly embraces many OS...for example SETI.

                          http://www.boincstats.com/stats/host_os_stats.php?pr=sah&st=0

                          Notice that Mac (darwin) to Linux is only 6 to 10 for machines. However, also notice that average credit is 2 to 1!! in favor of the mac.

                          So if you want the most bang for your resource buck, replace your Linux efforts with OSX.


                          Nothing? No reaction to the numbers? Is there a reason to crunch here?
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                          Message 5126 - Posted 17 Dec 2006 17:22:51 UTC - in response to Message 4968.

                            Check out the stats for a project that openly embraces many OS...for example SETI.

                            http://www.boincstats.com/stats/host_os_stats.php?pr=sah&st=0

                            Notice that Mac (darwin) to Linux is only 6 to 10 for machines. However, also notice that average credit is 2 to 1!! in favor of the mac.

                            So if you want the most bang for your resource buck, replace your Linux efforts with OSX.



                            I don\'t understand.

                            >>>Notice that Mac (darwin) to Linux is only 6 to 10 for machines. >>>

                            What attribute are you comparing?

                            Are you saying MACs are more efficient?

                            Or, are you saying MACs a rewarded more?

                            Do we know what CPUs are being used by Linux vs MAC?




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                            Message 5133 - Posted 17 Dec 2006 21:48:05 UTC

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                              Ehm, i understood (i hope)

                              Linux 95,812 machines
                              Darwin 58,618 machines

                              Darwin -> ~ 60 %

                              Average credit :
                              Linux 23.10
                              Darwin 45.39

                              Darwin -> 2*Linux

                              So a Mac machine would be more efficient than a Linux machine on the project Seti.

                              Alex Kan is doing superb OSX optimized clients.

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                              Message 5231 - Posted 20 Dec 2006 19:39:00 UTC - in response to Message 5133.

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                                I don\'t dispute that there are more higher-end Mac than Linux systems, but considering other projects too (see this), Mac systems have only a 25% advantage in the average credit per OS. Yet, because there are many more Linux systems, that difference is not meaningful to the outcome of a project, as most are after raw volume first rather than efficiency.

                                Otherwise, strictly from an efficiency perspective, Windows x64 sports an efficiency 5x higher than Mac...

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                                Message 5256 - Posted 21 Dec 2006 3:52:36 UTC - in response to Message 5231.

                                  I don\'t dispute that there are more higher-end Mac than Linux systems, but considering other projects too (see this), Mac systems have only a 25% advantage in the average credit per OS. Yet, because there are many more Linux systems, that difference is not meaningful to the outcome of a project, as most are after raw volume first rather than efficiency.

                                  Otherwise, strictly from an efficiency perspective, Windows x64 sports an efficiency 5x higher than Mac...


                                  Heh. The vast majority of those are on SETI, probably also using the (also very good) lunatics.at optimized app.

                                  You can\'t compare total credits. Of course linux will have more total credits, because there are so many more projects that have linux apps. It\'s self fulfilling. ROI says that OSX should have priority over linux.
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                                  Message 5329 - Posted 29 Dec 2006 10:46:30 UTC

                                    Two days ago, I killed WU 12941 after about 80 hours of work stuck on 20%. I also set “Won\'t get new tasks” on my PowerPC dual 1 GHz machine, and it will stay that way until I get some indication that a) WUs sent to it won\'t stick; b)I I stop getting results that are completed but don\'t match other results and hence don\'t attract any credit; and c) there is an update to the Mac application that fixes the broken code.

                                    My offer to help still stands.

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                                    Message 5333 - Posted 29 Dec 2006 13:59:47 UTC - in response to Message 5329.

                                      Two days ago, I killed WU 12941 after about 80 hours of work stuck on 20%. I also set “Won\'t get new tasks” on my PowerPC dual 1 GHz machine, and it will stay that way until I get some indication that a) WUs sent to it won\'t stick; b)I I stop getting results that are completed but don\'t match other results and hence don\'t attract any credit; and c) there is an update to the Mac application that fixes the broken code.

                                      My offer to help still stands.

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                                      Message 5341 - Posted 30 Dec 2006 0:09:44 UTC - in response to Message 5333.

                                        Two days ago, I killed WU 12941 after about 80 hours of work stuck on 20%. I also set “Won\'t get new tasks” on my PowerPC dual 1 GHz machine, and it will stay that way until I get some indication that a) WUs sent to it won\'t stick; b)I I stop getting results that are completed but don\'t match other results and hence don\'t attract any credit; and c) there is an update to the Mac application that fixes the broken code.

                                        My offer to help still stands.

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                                        Thanks. Missed it yesterday.

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