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Message 2202 - Posted 10 Mar 2006 19:25:30 UTC

    once again you set a deadline that is too early thus taking over my machine excluding all the other projects, your is the only one running. If you cannt play nice with the other projects then I\'m yanking sztaki off my machine. what you are doing is bullshit.

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    Message 2203 - Posted 10 Mar 2006 19:38:40 UTC

      When will we get a 10 day deadline??
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      Message 2204 - Posted 10 Mar 2006 21:57:58 UTC - in response to Message 2202.

        Relax, you have only been here a few days.
        Every project that I have been on has had its ups and downs.
        You may want to check this statement out by trying SETI and others.

        Adam has always been able to find the solutions to the problems - sometimes quickly and other times not. Just know this is not the only thing he does.

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        once again you set a deadline that is too early thus taking over my machine excluding all the other projects, your is the only one running. If you cannt play nice with the other projects then I\'m yanking sztaki off my machine. what you are doing is bullshit.


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        Message 2206 - Posted 10 Mar 2006 22:48:21 UTC - in response to Message 2202.

          Here is an idea to solve your problem:

          Go to General Preferences for your projects -start with this one.
          Maybe you have set the

          \"Connect to network about every
          (determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days)\"

          to high. Maybe set it at 0.1 or 0.2 to see if you get less WU\'s to crunch.
          Right now you have about 200 to get done by 03.15.

          Thanks,
          Richard

          once again you set a deadline that is too early thus taking over my machine excluding all the other projects, your is the only one running. If you cannt play nice with the other projects then I\'m yanking sztaki off my machine. what you are doing is bullshit.


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          Message 2215 - Posted 11 Mar 2006 11:53:49 UTC - in response to Message 2206.

            Here is an idea to solve your problem:

            Go to General Preferences for your projects -start with this one.
            Maybe you have set the

            \"Connect to network about every
            (determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days)\"

            to high. Maybe set it at 0.1 or 0.2 to see if you get less WU\'s to crunch.
            Right now you have about 200 to get done by 03.15.

            Thanks,
            Richard

            once again you set a deadline that is too early thus taking over my machine excluding all the other projects, your is the only one running. If you cannt play nice with the other projects then I\'m yanking sztaki off my machine. what you are doing is bullshit.


            You only need to do this at one project, it will propagate to the others automatically.
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            Message 2218 - Posted 11 Mar 2006 16:49:47 UTC - in response to Message 2202.

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              once again you set a deadline that is too early thus taking over my machine excluding all the other projects, your is the only one running. If you cannt play nice with the other projects then I\'m yanking sztaki off my machine. what you are doing is bullshit.

              Bullshit ? \"nice\" word ....
              Adam is trying to find the right size for the wus since they are too short or too long.
              Since your machine is overcommitted and is running in EDF mode for Sztaki, try to do do as others members say (reducing the size of work cache), that will help you for the next future.
              But you will need also to be a little patient.
              Anyway welcome. :)

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              Message 2252 - Posted 14 Mar 2006 18:47:53 UTC

                Although I would not use the same language, I do echo his sentiments.

                I Have set my General prefs to 1 day cache and SZTAKI specifically to 8% in the manager. All of the units I have recieved in the latest batch are taking between 3.5 and 5 hours.

                This is on a fast machine.

                The most recent flood consisted of 30-odd WUs. Even at 3 hours per WU, that\'s 90 hours - much much more than 24, wouldn\'t you say? At 8%, the server should have recognized that I didn\'t want 30 WUs at any time.

                Because of this, SZTAKI will not allow other projects to run. These are projects which, by now, would have completed their WU, and given me more credit. Yes, I do care about the science, but credit is recognition for work done and I like to be recognized for work done. It so happens that BOINC uses credits to show this recognition. A 5 hour WU for SZTAKI gives me 40 credits - A 1 hour WU for SETI gives me a little over 18 - hmmmmm 18 times 5 equals 90. And SETI plays nice, too.
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                Message 2253 - Posted 14 Mar 2006 21:23:07 UTC

                  Personally, I\'ve never had a problem with overcommitment because I am attached to multiple projects and therefore have the ability to set my cache at a very low amount, typically .1 to .5 days, depending on the machine. And if for some reason one of my projects gets low on raw data, it will just make an \"unexpected\" call to the server for more work.

                  If you just want to crunch for one project only, then maybe setting the cache higher is good in case of any downtime, but still .5 to a day should be plenty of work. I think in the 6 months in the 5 projects I\'ve been in, I\'ve only seen a project down longer then a day twice - once was scheduled, and the other was due to a complete power loss.

                  And just a few random thoughts, but if you have your cache set over 4 - 5 days when the due date for these workunits is 4 or 5 days, how do you expect to be able to crunch all of those downloaded units during that time? Also, being a new(er) user means that ALL of your computer stats are very \"unstable\" meaning that they may not as accurate as others, therefore giving you either too much or not enough work then what you would like in your cache.

                  Final thought - Since Adam has been trying to INCREASE the time of workunits over the past month or so doesn\'t mean that the server will automatically know that your computer won\'t be able to handle as many, so it will still download what it feels it needs. If you begin to see this you may want to lower your cache some to compensate until the stats start becoming more stable.

                  This is just what works for me. So it may not work for everyone, but may be a good guideline to finding your own solution...
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