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Message 3055 - Posted 17 Jun 2006 12:40:54 UTC

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    Feel free to use this thread for any question, comment, problem... about AkosF. optimised applications.
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    Message 3059 - Posted 17 Jun 2006 17:25:18 UTC

      I have read that sdg11209 is very fast, but does it produce \"clean\" results? Any stack overflows detected? = should I change from sdg11207 to sdg11209?

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      Message 3060 - Posted 17 Jun 2006 17:37:00 UTC - in response to Message 3059.

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        I have read that sdg11209 is very fast, but does it produce \"clean\" results? Any stack overflows detected? = should I change from sdg11207 to sdg11209?

        I have had several hundred results from it. While quite a lot are still pending, none of those failed to execute correctly, and none of those that have validated have failed to validate correctly against the official version. I would suggest you try it but monitor your first results to make sure they too are clean. Mike
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        Message 3065 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 4:21:18 UTC

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          In the meantime I had a few invalid ones with sdg11209

          874262 874226 874291 (out of about 2000 total results on this box)

          I hope that\'s all, still no filter on results with problems in BOINC *sigh*

          A lot is still pending so there might come a few more, I hope not too many :-/


          The problem results show this stupid BOINC bug too, BOINC ignores the quorum and is happy with two valid results instead of setting the WU state to \"checked but no consensus yet\" and delivering one more :-(


          The \"invalid\" errors are all on the same box, my working and surfing computer - so they might have been caused by a \"slight\" incompatibility between BOINC project clients and DirectX / DirectDraw - this incompatibility seems to hit all clients with linked (not even activated!) graphics now and then but SZTAKI doesn\'t have graphics I think so it\'s not too likely that this is the cause.

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          Message 3076 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 11:47:51 UTC

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            nightbird
            can you post links to the various apps please either on here or on the read only thread ?
            as i am using sdg11203(?) i think when and where did we get to sdg11209

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            Message 3077 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 12:26:20 UTC

              Akosf, in my dreams, you have created a blog to explain every of you optimisations for each project you are involved in.

              may be my dreams will become reality ?

              The blog i use is free (http://gamess.over-blog.com/). The main page is
              http://www.over-blog.com/ but is in french in the text.
              Perhaps have you the same things in english.
              (with overblog you have until 50 Mo free space, but i think it\'s enought)

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              Message 3078 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 12:47:08 UTC - in response to Message 3076.

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                nightbird
                can you post links to the various apps please either on here or on the read only thread ?
                as i am using sdg11203(?) i think when and where did we get to sdg11209

                I put the links for the \"old\" versions.
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                Since the links go directly to AkosF\'s server, if He wishes, i will remove them.
                (\"don\'t link to the files\" is a known rule on the Net ;))

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                Message 3084 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 13:24:15 UTC - in response to Message 3077.

                  Akosf, in my dreams, you have created a blog to explain every of you optimisations for each project you are involved in.

                  may be my dreams will become reality ?

                  Good idea, but i don\'t plan any blogs...

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                  Message 3085 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 13:27:32 UTC

                    Would it be possible to post link to 11210 executable? The patcher doesn\'t work on my machine (\"cannot open search_1.12_windows_intelx86.exe\") possibly because I have all DOS support switched off. TIA /Pavel

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                    Message 3088 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 13:57:00 UTC - in response to Message 3085.

                      Would it be possible to post link to 11210 executable? The patcher doesn\'t work on my machine (\"cannot open search_1.12_windows_intelx86.exe\") possibly because I have all DOS support switched off. TIA /Pavel


                      For all: link is here

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                      Message 3089 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 14:41:39 UTC - in response to Message 3088.

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                        Would it be possible to post link to 11210 executable? The patcher doesn\'t work on my machine (\"cannot open search_1.12_windows_intelx86.exe\") possibly because I have all DOS support switched off. TIA /Pavel


                        For all: link is here

                        That doesn\'t seem possible to d/l the file :
                        very slow and at the end the file is corrupted (problem of size)
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                        Message 3095 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 17:21:14 UTC - in response to Message 3089.

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                          Hi
                          I\'ve just started to use the optimised app, but I generate very low claimed credit: 0-1.
                          I\'ve seen that others with time below 100s per WU claim 10 or more.
                          So what is the way to calibrate credit?? I use BoincStudio but its calibration does not work.

                          I just want to avoid situation when people, who don\'t use optimisation, get unfairly low credit, because of me.

                          Thx
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                          Message 3096 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 17:35:54 UTC - in response to Message 3095.

                            Hi
                            I\'ve just started to use the optimized app, but I generate very low claimed credit: 0-1.
                            I\'ve seen that others with time below 100s per WU claim 10 or more.
                            So what is the way to calibrate credit?? I use BoincStudio but its calibration does not work.

                            I just want to avoid situation when people, who don\'t use optimized app, get unfairly low credit, because of me.

                            Thx


                            You might try the Trux client - but I suggest you revert back to BOINC 5.2.13 first. I could not get Trux to work with v5.4.9 and I read (at Seti) that a lot of others have had similar problems.

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                            Message 3097 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 17:45:27 UTC - in response to Message 3096.

                              You might try the Trux client - but I suggest you revert back to BOINC 5.2.13 first. I could not get Trux to work with v5.4.9 and I read (at Seti) that a lot of others have had similar problems.

                              Yes, the Trux client works fine here, but is getting out of date. Boincstudio looks like the best replacement candidate, but is still being developed. There was some talk in one of the other Boinc project forums about the BoincStudio author stopping it calibrating at all except for one or two projects, but I didn\'t think that happened yet, and it would be a shame if SZDG was excluded given Akos\' work.

                              The Trux client does take a fair number of WUs to get the calibration right, I don\'t know if BoincStudio might be the same (I\'m still waiting for the documentation to appear before trying it myself). But if you have completed and returned more than about 30 WUs it should be working properly if that is the reason.

                              There are active BoiceStudio discussion threads at Seti & Einstein at least. If you belong to either of those projects it might be worth posting a slightly off thread question about calibration in Sztaki, either the author or one of the other experts on BoincStudio over there should be able to help you.

                              Good luck. Please post the answer here when you find it! Mike

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                              Message 3102 - Posted 18 Jun 2006 20:41:17 UTC

                                I\'m using the Truxoft client too - with a patch to have a quota of 2000 per PC here :-)

                                The patch deals with those crappy debit entries in client_state.xml too, a client restart resets them

                                You need to have the truxoft client installed first as the ZIP has only boinc.exe in it.

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                                Message 3120 - Posted 19 Jun 2006 7:47:34 UTC - in response to Message 3089.

                                  Would it be possible to post link to 11210 executable? The patcher doesn\'t work on my machine (\"cannot open search_1.12_windows_intelx86.exe\") possibly because I have all DOS support switched off. TIA /Pavel


                                  For all: link is here

                                  That doesn\'t seem possible to d/l the file :
                                  very slow and at the end the file is corrupted (problem of size)


                                  File is correct, if you have any problem try to download again

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                                  Message 3140 - Posted 19 Jun 2006 17:39:55 UTC

                                    Hi
                                    I\'ve just started to use the optimised app, but I generate very low claimed credit: 0-1.
                                    I\'ve seen that others with time below 100s per WU claim 10 or more.
                                    So what is the way to calibrate credit?? I use BoincStudio but its calibration does not work.

                                    I just want to avoid situation when people, who don\'t use optimisation, get unfairly low credit, because of me.

                                    Thx

                                    The credits correction doesn\'t work because the time of workunits is too small !
                                    DocMaboul has left an update of BoincStudio to regulate this problem.
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                                    Message 3142 - Posted 19 Jun 2006 17:58:59 UTC - in response to Message 3140.

                                      Hi
                                      I\'ve just started to use the optimised app, but I generate very low claimed credit: 0-1.
                                      I\'ve seen that others with time below 100s per WU claim 10 or more.
                                      So what is the way to calibrate credit?? I use BoincStudio but its calibration does not work.

                                      I just want to avoid situation when people, who don\'t use optimisation, get unfairly low credit, because of me.

                                      Thx

                                      The credits correction doesn\'t work because the time of workunits is too small !
                                      DocMaboul has left an update of BoincStudio to regulate this problem.


                                      I use client from Trux and credits correction work well, but not by the first group of WUs. You must crunched a lot WUs to start calibration

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                                      Message 3144 - Posted 19 Jun 2006 18:38:21 UTC

                                        A lot of WUs doesn\'t take that long ;-) The Trux client works fine here too.

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                                        Message 3183 - Posted 21 Jun 2006 13:31:31 UTC

                                          Trux works great once it settles in (20-30 wus) no matter how fast you finish a work unit and it doesn\'t screw up when you switch to another project.
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                                          Message 3188 - Posted 21 Jun 2006 17:26:46 UTC - in response to Message 3183.

                                            Thank all of you for reply. Apart from Trux there is also a new version of BoincStudio which is said to calibrate correctly, however Sztaki took a longer break and I\'m not sure if calibration will at all be needed after Sztaki runs again.
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                                            Message 3189 - Posted 21 Jun 2006 22:54:41 UTC - in response to Message 3140.

                                              Hi
                                              I\'ve just started to use the optimised app, but I generate very low claimed credit: 0-1.
                                              I\'ve seen that others with time below 100s per WU claim 10 or more.
                                              So what is the way to calibrate credit?? I use BoincStudio but its calibration does not work.

                                              I just want to avoid situation when people, who don\'t use optimisation, get unfairly low credit, because of me.

                                              Thx

                                              The credits correction doesn\'t work because the time of workunits is too small !
                                              DocMaboul has left an update of BoincStudio to regulate this problem.


                                              There was an update last sunday to correct this issue.
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                                              Message 3213 - Posted 25 Jun 2006 9:37:45 UTC

                                                I\'ve got some question to BoincStudio in separate branch of this thread.
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                                                Message 3232 - Posted 27 Jun 2006 19:21:42 UTC

                                                  Could someone post a link to the most recent optimized app - I am having trouble with downloading 11210.zip

                                                  I can not run patcher -
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                                                  Message 3235 - Posted 27 Jun 2006 21:05:34 UTC - in response to Message 3232.

                                                    Could someone post a link to the most recent optimized app - I am having trouble with downloading 11210.zip

                                                    I can not run patcher -


                                                    we have the latest app (patched 11210) in our german forum (boinc-foren.de)
                                                    -> http://realtec.dyndns.org/web/vbforum/showthread.php?t=1278

                                                    you have to register before downloading...



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                                                    Message 3382 - Posted 6 Jul 2006 6:30:57 UTC

                                                      Does anyone know if Akosf has yet gotten a sztaki 2.0 optimized app out yet? And if so, where it can be downloaded? thx in advance...
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                                                      Message 3405 - Posted 6 Jul 2006 22:51:04 UTC - in response to Message 3382.

                                                        1.x applications are incompatible with the new WUs, so don\'t use them, cause they\'ll fail computing new WUs.

                                                        We\'re in touch with Akos Fekete and we\'ll release optimized applications officially.
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                                                        Message 3648 - Posted 26 Jul 2006 0:51:51 UTC - in response to Message 3405.

                                                          1.x applications are incompatible with the new WUs, so don\'t use them, cause they\'ll fail computing new WUs.

                                                          We\'re in touch with Akos Fekete and we\'ll release optimized applications officially.


                                                          Adam,

                                                          Need some news from you..

                                                          Where is Akos when we need him?

                                                          Present WU\'s take too long and I\'m conserned that if I let one go a long time, it may not be valid.

                                                          So I\'m aborting any of the long ones.

                                                          Others must be doing the same since I see a lot of Client errors on the ones I abort.

                                                          So generating a lot of WU\'s is not the solution (I just saw 69,000 new ones available).

                                                          With about 9000 computers working and only about 800 results being turned in during a 48 hour period,i tdoes not seem too productive using the present WU\'s.

                                                          Adam: So we need the good news / bad news and definitely any news from you.

                                                          I\'m suspending this project until we hear from you.

                                                          Thanks.
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                                                          Message 7856 - Posted 2 May 2009 23:34:24 UTC - in response to Message 3405.

                                                            1.x applications are incompatible with the new WUs, so don\'t use them, cause they\'ll fail computing new WUs.

                                                            We\'re in touch with Akos Fekete and we\'ll release optimized applications officially.




                                                            Bumping thread.

                                                            What happened to the \"we\'ll release optimized applications\" ???



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