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Message 3638 - Posted 25 Jul 2006 15:55:53 UTC

    I think I\'ve just about had it with this project, what with very long prcessing times which get zero credit and others which seem to be pending for ever, I wonder if it\'s being taken seriously and if it\'s worth continuing.

    Tell me why I shouldn\'t detach, please.

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    Message 3787 - Posted 11 Aug 2006 6:41:19 UTC

      I agree.

      I really do not like when I take CPU time away from CPDN to crunch some SZTAKI and after 150 hours there is a computation error.

      If you want to produce large WUs please do it in a proper way. You will loose crunchers with this behaviour.

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      Kedves ??d??m!
      K?Šrlek sz??lj a f??n??ks?Šgnek, mert ez t?Šnyleg nagyon ?Šg??. Az m?Šg OK??, hogy egyed??l a SZTAKI-nak nincs norm??lis kezel??fel??lete a BOINC-ban ?Šs nincsenek olyan nyom??gombok, hogy \"Eredm?Šnyek, sz??m?­t??g?Špek, csapat\" pedig ez a minimum lenne.

      DE az m??r t?Šnyleg sok, hogy ha van is WU, akkor az t??l nagy, nem tervezhet??, beh??ly?­ti a BOINC-omat ?Šs m??s projektekkel el??szok, r??ad??sul m?Šg hib??s is.

      Szedj?Štek ??ssze magatokat, mert t??l??nk nyugatabbra ha valaki komolytalan azt nagyon k??nnyen le?­rj??k.

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      Message 3788 - Posted 11 Aug 2006 6:44:40 UTC

        And it is high time to solve this fu****ng language problem!

        It is terrible, that the website of a hungarian project did not speak hungarian correctly.
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        Message 3791 - Posted 11 Aug 2006 17:29:40 UTC - in response to Message 3788.

          And it is high time to solve this fu****ng language problem!

          It is terrible, that the website of a hungarian project did not speak hungarian correctly.

          It\'s odd, because the SETI@home and Einstein@home boards, which I believe were built from the same template or around the same engine, seem to handle all manner of character sets quite well. I don\'t read Magyar, but I don\'t need to in order to tell that the characters with diacriticals are getting horribly scrambled!

          I\'m in the habit of using typographers\' quotes, dashes, and the like in the S@h and E@h forums, but here those don\'t work any better than the accents, so I must restrict myself to the plain ASCII characters.
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          Message 3792 - Posted 11 Aug 2006 22:03:58 UTC - in response to Message 3787.

            I agree.

            I really do not like when I take CPU time away from CPDN to crunch some SZTAKI and after 150 hours there is a computation error.

            If you want to produce large WUs please do it in a proper way. You will loose crunchers with this behaviour.

            ..and a privat message:

            Kedves ??d??m!
            K?Šrlek sz??lj a f??n??ks?Šgnek, mert ez t?Šnyleg nagyon ?Šg??. Az m?Šg OK??, hogy egyed??l a SZTAKI-nak nincs norm??lis kezel??fel??lete a BOINC-ban ?Šs nincsenek olyan nyom??gombok, hogy \"Eredm?Šnyek, sz??m?­t??g?Špek, csapat\" pedig ez a minimum lenne.

            DE az m??r t?Šnyleg sok, hogy ha van is WU, akkor az t??l nagy, nem tervezhet??, beh??ly?­ti a BOINC-omat ?Šs m??s projektekkel el??szok, r??ad??sul m?Šg hib??s is.

            Szedj?Štek ??ssze magatokat, mert t??l??nk nyugatabbra ha valaki komolytalan azt nagyon k??nnyen le?­rj??k.

            ??dv.
            ZSolt


            I posted on 25 July and your\'s is the first reply - 16 days later. I think the lack of a response from SZTAKI staff speaks volumes...

            Someone is extracting the urine.

            Bill Hounslow

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            Message 3793 - Posted 12 Aug 2006 0:51:34 UTC - in response to Message 3788.

              And it is high time to solve this fu****ng language problem!

              It is terrible, that the website of a hungarian project did not speak hungarian correctly.



              Not Adam\'s fault, it is a conceptional bug in the BOINC support for multiple languages, someone didn\'t think before he designed it.

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              Message 3794 - Posted 12 Aug 2006 5:58:06 UTC - in response to Message 3793.

                Not Adam\'s fault, it is a conceptional bug in the BOINC support for multiple languages, someone didn\'t think before he designed it.

                Is this forum based on an older version or something? As I said in my previous post, the S@h and E@h boards seem to handle extended character sets reasonably well; I\'ve even seen Chinese and Russian (Cyrillic) postings there. Or is it that those projects have customized their own code to fix the problem, while the stock BOINC version remains flawed?
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                Message 3798 - Posted 13 Aug 2006 7:15:38 UTC - in response to Message 3793.

                  Not Adam\'s fault, it is a conceptional bug in the BOINC support for multiple languages, someone didn\'t think before he designed it.


                  Umm, what is a computer programmer? How\'d I do?


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                  Message 3800 - Posted 13 Aug 2006 9:44:51 UTC

                    If newer versions do it better, that might mean that they either took out this weird characterset switching from the PHP function which generates the header or that they convert forum entries and .po.inc file contents into the target character set. => http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=990

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                    Message 3829 - Posted 17 Aug 2006 8:13:08 UTC

                      OK, OK. Please come back to the main issue. Lets concentrate on Bill\'s questions:

                      - too large WU\'s with bad prediction cause BOINC goes mad
                      - large faulty WU\'s those crash after 100-200 hours computing time
                      - results are pending too long

                      So, I agree with Bill. When will SZTAKI solve these problems?

                      Personally I stopped SZTAKI and now concentrating my power to Einstein and CPDN.

                      Sorry guys, but if you dont care, than I dont care.

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                      Message 3832 - Posted 17 Aug 2006 12:16:50 UTC - in response to Message 3788.

                        And it is high time to solve this fu****ng language problem!

                        It is terrible, that the website of a hungarian project did not speak hungarian correctly.

                        Szia!
                        Pedig m?ködik... csak egy kicsit cselesen:
                        Mikor megjelenik az a képerny?, ahol a szöveget tudod megadni, váltsd át a karakterkódolást Közép-európaira (ISO-8859-2), és csak utána kezdd el a gépelést.

                        Jó szórakozást!

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                        Message 3837 - Posted 18 Aug 2006 7:36:09 UTC - in response to Message 3832.

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                          Message 3845 - Posted 20 Aug 2006 11:06:56 UTC - in response to Message 3829.

                            OK, OK. Please come back to the main issue. Lets concentrate on Bill\'s questions:

                            - too large WU\'s with bad prediction cause BOINC goes mad
                            - large faulty WU\'s those crash after 100-200 hours computing time
                            - results are pending too long

                            So, I agree with Bill. When will SZTAKI solve these problems?

                            Personally I stopped SZTAKI and now concentrating my power to Einstein and CPDN.

                            Sorry guys, but if you dont care, than I dont care.

                            regards,
                            ZSolt


                            Agreed. As they (apparently) couldn\'t think of a reason why I should stay connected, I didn\'t.

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                            Message 3891 - Posted 27 Aug 2006 8:56:49 UTC - in response to Message 3845.

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                              Personally I stopped SZTAKI and now concentrating my power to Einstein and CPDN.



                              Agreed. As they (apparently) couldn\'t think of a reason why I should stay connected, I didn\'t.

                              Bill


                              Did CPDN never had any pbs ? Remember...
                              Did you stop crunching for them ?
                              I didn\'t. It seems you didn\'t too.
                              Temporary pbs will be solved.
                              Keep on crunching ! :)


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                              Message 4082 - Posted 19 Sep 2006 22:09:39 UTC

                                Yeah. Really.

                                I remember when cpdn f**d up the model and they have to shut down ALL of them.
                                - They said sorry.
                                - We got new WU\'s from CPDN immediately.
                                - We got the credit for our \'useless\' work, because they did not want us to feel it was a complete waste of time, power, etc...

                                Now SZTAKI cancelled all my pending credits.
                                It was a realy kind move.
                                I think if the project f**d up the model is not my fault.
                                It was not my fault also that I was the only one who crunched some of their extra long WU\'s under more than 100 hours, but they punish me.

                                I think there are some other cruncher with the same experience too.
                                So I have to say goodbye to the project.

                                Bye,
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                                Message 4083 - Posted 19 Sep 2006 22:26:31 UTC

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                                  The project didn\'t cancel your pending credits and you are not \'punished\'.
                                  Did you read this topic about the credits claimed/granted ?
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