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Message 4916 - Posted 4 Dec 2006 2:21:03 UTC

    It seems some versions of the software have had problems.

    Would it be possible to raise the MAX errors to protect the work done by folks who may have to wait a long time for a quorum to be reached?

    Currently we have:
    minimum quorum 3
    initial replication 3
    max # of error/total/success results 5, 8, 5

    Could we just double the max errors?



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    Message 4943 - Posted 6 Dec 2006 0:57:09 UTC - in response to Message 4916.

      It seems some versions of the software have had problems.

      Would it be possible to raise the MAX errors to protect the work done by folks who may have to wait a long time for a quorum to be reached?

      Currently we have:
      minimum quorum 3
      initial replication 3
      max # of error/total/success results 5, 8, 5

      Could we just double the max errors?



      My wish :
      increasing \"max # of error/total/success results\"
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      Message 4944 - Posted 6 Dec 2006 5:12:06 UTC - in response to Message 4943.

        It seems some versions of the software have had problems.

        Would it be possible to raise the MAX errors to protect the work done by folks who may have to wait a long time for a quorum to be reached?

        Currently we have:
        minimum quorum 3
        initial replication 3
        max # of error/total/success results 5, 8, 5

        Could we just double the max errors?



        My wish :
        increasing \"max # of error/total/success results\"


        Well let\'s hope we were all good this year and get our wishes for Christmas!
        thanks!
        Phil

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        Message 4951 - Posted 6 Dec 2006 16:46:18 UTC - in response to Message 4944.

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          Well let\'s hope we were all good this year and get our wishes for Christmas!
          thanks!
          Phil


          Well, the holiday wishes came true. I see 10/20/10 everywhere!!

          Thanks Adam!

          [edit]Also noticed granted credit for invalid results and \"Workunit error - check skipped\" results, and even the empty results, Thanks again Adam![/edit]
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          Message 4970 - Posted 7 Dec 2006 9:28:51 UTC - in response to Message 4951.

            Also noticed granted credit for invalid results and \"Workunit error - check skipped\" results, and even the empty results, Thanks again Adam!

            What\'s still missing is the credits for \"Maximum CPU time exceeded\".

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            Message 4971 - Posted 7 Dec 2006 12:17:00 UTC - in response to Message 4951.

              [edit]Also noticed granted credit for invalid results and \"Workunit error - check skipped\" results, and even the empty results, Thanks again Adam![/edit]


              The credits were granted to empty WUs but will I see them add to my \"Összes kredit\"? ;) it\'s not the case now :)

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              Message 4973 - Posted 7 Dec 2006 15:26:02 UTC - in response to Message 4951.

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                Well let\'s hope we were all good this year and get our wishes for Christmas!
                thanks!
                Phil


                Well, the holiday wishes came true. I see 10/20/10 everywhere!!

                Thanks Adam!

                [edit]Also noticed granted credit for invalid results and \"Workunit error - check skipped\" results, and even the empty results, Thanks again Adam![/edit]



                Indeed - thanks Adam and NightBird -
                Ask and ye shall receive...
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                Message 5086 - Posted 15 Dec 2006 18:20:01 UTC - in response to Message 4973.

                  I noticed that WU\'s I\'ve gotten lately are 5/8/5. But I also noticed that these WU\'s are very likely to finish successfully (without needing the increased maximum). Just wondering if the 10/20/10 policy has officially been reversed.

                  Well let\'s hope we were all good this year and get our wishes for Christmas!
                  thanks!
                  Phil


                  Well, the holiday wishes came true. I see 10/20/10 everywhere!!

                  Thanks Adam!

                  [edit]Also noticed granted credit for invalid results and \"Workunit error - check skipped\" results, and even the empty results, Thanks again Adam![/edit]



                  Indeed - thanks Adam and NightBird -
                  Ask and ye shall receive...


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                  Message 5087 - Posted 15 Dec 2006 18:40:34 UTC

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                    I would say that only the wus created before 4 dec. (not sure about time) got the new policy (max # of error/total/success results 10/20/10).
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                    Message 5088 - Posted 15 Dec 2006 21:17:51 UTC - in response to Message 5087.

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                      I would say that only the wus created before 4 dec. (not sure about time) got the new policy (max # of error/total/success results 10/20/10).

                      Look at WU27119 from October.

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                      Message 5089 - Posted 16 Dec 2006 2:17:49 UTC - in response to Message 5087.

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                        I would say that only the wus created before 4 dec. (not sure about time) got the new policy (max # of error/total/success results 10/20/10).


                        Is there a downside to the 10/20/10?

                        If so what is it?

                        If not, why would it be changed back?
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                        Message 5104 - Posted 17 Dec 2006 4:17:55 UTC - in response to Message 5089.

                          Is there a downside to the 10/20/10?

                          If so what is it?

                          I don’t know the specifics in this case, but in general I should think it’s more load on the database server. Where the error rate is high, WUs can take up 150% more (20/8 = 2.5 times as much) storage—not much data perhaps, but AIUI database records are ‘expensive’ in terms of access overheads.

                          At the other projects I run: SETI@home has 5,10,5 and S@h Beta likewise; Einstein@home 20,20,20; Leiden Classical 20,?,?; Pirates@home 2,7,47.
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                          Message 5105 - Posted 17 Dec 2006 5:24:08 UTC - in response to Message 5104.

                            Is there a downside to the 10/20/10?

                            If so what is it?
                            .... Where the error rate is high....,.


                            So, if the error rate is high - is exactly when you need it.

                            If the error rate is \"normal\" then the penalty should be minimal...

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                            Message 5316 - Posted 27 Dec 2006 0:19:45 UTC - in response to Message 5089.

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                              I would say that only the wus created before 4 dec. (not sure about time) got the new policy (max # of error/total/success results 10/20/10).


                              Is there a downside to the 10/20/10?

                              If so what is it?

                              If not, why would it be changed back?

                              The max # of error/total/success results has been changed manually for all wus created before 4 dec (~). But because the master program has always the 5/8/5 setting, we are using again the 5/8/5 for the \'new\' wus.

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