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Message 5414 - Posted 8 Jan 2007 8:46:18 UTC

    Hello

    The following work unit seems to be stuck at 50% after 9.36 hours of processing. Is there a problem with it or do I just have to wait patiently.

    My computer id is 227183.

    Thanks

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    Message 5417 - Posted 8 Jan 2007 11:04:29 UTC - in response to Message 5414.

      The following work unit seems to be stuck at 50% after 9.36 hours of processing. Is there a problem with it or do I just have to wait patiently.

      This WU is a 2-liner. The first line is processed, that\'s why it shows 50%. And it will show 50% until the end when the second line will be finished. The fastest Window machine needed 16 hours to finish this WU, the slowest one needed 94 hours (with the slow program version 2.00 that we had at that time). Your processing time is normal, just stay on patiently.
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      Message 5419 - Posted 8 Jan 2007 11:30:07 UTC

        Thanks Robert, will stick with it then
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        Message 5431 - Posted 10 Jan 2007 0:43:16 UTC

          Well I\'ve just stuck to a long WU - it took 39hrs on an Opteron 248 - but only to find I\'ve not been granted credit. The workunit is obviously a problem for some people - it\'s been around since last October, been sent 8 times, and only just reached quota with my successful run. But it is not encouraging to find \"Credit Granted=0.00\"

          I\'d noticed before that some workunits (properly completed of course) fail to get credit. This is not a rare occurrence - I have five in the last three days or so:

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          41222
          69906
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          Message 5484 - Posted 17 Jan 2007 13:43:41 UTC

            A week has elapsed, so I\'ve just had a look to see if anything has happened to these five workunits with 0 credit.

            AFAICS they have all disappeared !

            I am much less likely to devote my BOINC resources to projects that don\'t seem to maintain their data integrity - one has to wonder if they take care with the results we calculate for them.

            Please can I have my earned credits.

            Sorry to sound a little irritated.


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            Message 5485 - Posted 17 Jan 2007 15:35:51 UTC - in response to Message 5484.

              A week has elapsed, so I\'ve just had a look to see if anything has happened to these five workunits with 0 credit.

              AFAICS they have all disappeared !


              Yes, they have, actually they have been deleted. Completed WUs (successful, erred out, etc. whatever) get deleted, otherwise the database would fill up and there would not be any room for new WUs. The actual results are still kept and delivered to the researchers, just not in the BOINC database anymore.

              I am much less likely to devote my BOINC resources to projects that don\'t seem to maintain their data integrity - one has to wonder if they take care with the results we calculate for them.


              I would really hate to lose a fellow cruncher based on the fact that the database is \"trimming the fat\" even if we would like to still see the results for troubleshooting reasons.

              Please can I have my earned credits.


              I agree that this project is frustrating at times, having to wait for weeks/months at a time for credit to be granted, but that is the nature of this project with issues with the app and stuck WU, etc. You are not alone. :)
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              Message 5487 - Posted 17 Jan 2007 19:21:07 UTC

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                Yes - SZTAKI is frustrating at times - it\'s a lot easier now that it in English though.

                These comments don\'t seem to match my understanding.

                The workunit that took 39 hrs on the Opteron 248 had been completed by two others (and timed out or aborted by 5 more). When my unit completed I actually watched the other two results change from \'pending\' credit into some \'granted\' credit. But my result merely changed from showing \"date due\" to \"date returned\" with 400+ pending credit and 0 granted credit. I checked back for change for a couple of days: nothing happened.

                Now the workunit has gone - along with I think 400+ pending credits. I understand that it has reached the science team behind the scenes - but I doubt that any process is in place that will recover my credit. I would have to wait forever.

                400 lost credits is enough to irritate me. For larry186, representing 20% of their total, I\'m sure it would be infuriating.
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                Message 5488 - Posted 17 Jan 2007 20:51:06 UTC - in response to Message 5487.

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                  For larry186, representing 20% of their total, I\'m sure it would be infuriating.

                  I just lost 658.90 points, but as this is less than 1% of my wealth, I can afford to stay happy. Such losses occur to all of us, so there is no change in the overall classification, and that\'s according to my understanding the only reason why credits can be valued. If injustice is the same for all, then there is no injustice. It\'s the nature of the project.

                  If I wanted to be angry, I could easily find a reason. In the above-mentioned WU, I lost over 24 times the total number of points of the other 5 crunchers. And the real injustice is that I am the only one who has a correct result without the message \"APP: Output is empty, placing msg in out.txt\". I am the only one who has crunched until the end, without closing Boinc or the system. All the others have restarted the WU. But I\'m not angry, it\'s not worth. By the way, Ádám, you might use my result as canonical result instead of creating a new WU.
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                  Message 5489 - Posted 17 Jan 2007 23:50:38 UTC - in response to Message 5484.

                    A week has elapsed, so I\'ve just had a look to see if anything has happened to these five workunits with 0 credit.

                    AFAICS they have all disappeared !

                    I am much less likely to devote my BOINC resources to projects that don\'t seem to maintain their data integrity - one has to wonder if they take care with the results we calculate for them.

                    Please can I have my earned credits.

                    Sorry to sound a little irritated.


                    If the db is not purged, the wus are still \"here\".

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