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Message 656 - Posted 12 Aug 2005 20:15:27 UTC

    Since yesterday I got several results with granted credit 0.

    All of them say "Túl sok összes eredmény". If I translated this correctly, it means "Too many total results".

    The WU's in question are:
    <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=328">328</a>
    <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=371">371</a>
    <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=490">490</a>
    <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=642">642</a>

    Each of these WU's had one result with computation error. A replacement result was created. But it was never sent because the WU is now in state "Too many results".

    If a WU needs a quorum of 3 and is sent out 4 times initially, then I do not understand why 5 results is considered too many. It would be better if this limit is set to 7 or 8.

    Will these WU's get validated once a third result is in?
    What happens if the other results never get in?

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    Message 659 - Posted 13 Aug 2005 0:08:41 UTC

      I have the same problem
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      Message 661 - Posted 13 Aug 2005 0:35:35 UTC

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        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=576">576</a>
        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=574">574</a>
        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=542">542</a>
        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=534">534</a>
        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=524">524</a>
        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=522">522</a>
        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=647">647</a>
        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=637">637</a>
        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=618">618</a>
        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=614">614</a>

        10 for me

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        Message 665 - Posted 13 Aug 2005 12:36:53 UTC

          Will check it out with priority. If the validator turns out to be messing up things, I'll grant the aquired credits for all of these results.
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          Message 667 - Posted 13 Aug 2005 12:41:01 UTC

            Adam, when granting those credits manually, please make sure they are granted for the user and for the team the user is in.
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            Message 673 - Posted 13 Aug 2005 23:03:37 UTC

              | <i>make sure they are granted for the user and for the team the user is in.</i>

              Will do...
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              Message 679 - Posted 14 Aug 2005 16:38:52 UTC

                I dont often feel the need to post to forums but I too have had many results with 0 credit most if not all had at least 3 valid results returned. So far today I have returned 9 results and 5 have not been granted credit

                1614
                1566
                1552
                1481
                1447
                640
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                Message 683 - Posted 14 Aug 2005 22:15:51 UTC

                  I have also the 0-credit-problem. The work units
                  <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=647">647</a>
                  <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=616">616</a>
                  obtained only 0 credit.

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                  Message 689 - Posted 15 Aug 2005 15:16:14 UTC

                    Same problem with:

                    1522
                    1561
                    1591

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                    Message 690 - Posted 15 Aug 2005 15:18:03 UTC

                      Hey Adam Do you want us to report all the "0" results we have ? or will you be able to find them yourself ? I don't mind finding all mine if it makes your life easier.

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                      Message 692 - Posted 15 Aug 2005 15:21:19 UTC

                        Last modified: 15 Aug 2005 15:21:38 UTC

                        Too many total results problem is now corrected. Everyone who has claimed credit, but it hasn't been granted because of this problem will get his/her credit and also his/her team granted manually.
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                        Message 694 - Posted 15 Aug 2005 16:34:09 UTC

                          Adam, I found this 3 wu also with problems. Can you check them for me?

                          Thanks,
                          Atila

                          http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=533
                          http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1586
                          http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1624


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                          Message 698 - Posted 15 Aug 2005 19:43:47 UTC

                            | <i>found this 3 wu also with problems. Can you check them for me?</i>

                            It's the same too many error problem, which has been fixed. You'll receive your claimed credit, hopefully tomorrow.
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                            Message 703 - Posted 16 Aug 2005 19:43:22 UTC

                              Adam please let us know when you will finish the update of these problematic WUs. I still have a WU with 0 credits approved.

                              It's interesting the WU is 1478 and I've received: Munka csomag hiba - ellenőrzés kihagyva.

                              Just for those who don't speak hungarian the translation would be something like this: WU error - validation has been skipped.
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                              Message 704 - Posted 16 Aug 2005 20:37:04 UTC

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                                Most of my "0" credit units are showing like this:

                                <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=524">WU 524</a>

                                Where an average credit is given to only one of the 3 units.Thought i'd let you know, just incase.


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                                Message 705 - Posted 16 Aug 2005 21:38:31 UTC

                                  I have 2 more with credit only granted to 1 of 3 results. How can 1 out of 3 have a majority to form the quorum?
                                  <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1594">WU 1594</a>
                                  <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1628">WU 1628</a>

                                  And next time you send a mass EMail to inform us: Don't put in all of the recipients addresses in the TO-Field for everyone to see. That's what the BCC-Field is for.
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                                  Message 706 - Posted 17 Aug 2005 9:44:27 UTC

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                                    Hi Adam,

                                    also got some Zero-Credit WUs...


                                    http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=529
                                    http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=572
                                    http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=783
                                    http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=811
                                    http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=892
                                    http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1521
                                    http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1538

                                    thanx

                                    P.S.: How do make the WU-links "clickable" ???

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                                    Message 708 - Posted 17 Aug 2005 10:47:35 UTC

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                                      @DonaldXP:

                                      You must use the href tag for clickable links ;)

                                      @Adam:
                                      Got the email but my credits not granted yet...

                                      http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=576
                                      http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=575
                                      http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=568
                                      http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=567
                                      http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=513
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                                      Message 709 - Posted 17 Aug 2005 12:12:37 UTC


                                        @Adam:
                                        Got the email but my credits not granted yet...


                                        Ditto... 639, 1089, and 1112. Also, 1112 needs to be sent out again, as there were two client errors.

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                                        Message 710 - Posted 17 Aug 2005 15:01:29 UTC

                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=522">522</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=542">542</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=574">574</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=614">614</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=637">637</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=781">781</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=853">853</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1101">1101</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1186">1186</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1378">1378</a>
                                          <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1626">1626</a>

                                          My remaining "0" credit wu's with the average credit given to only one of the hosts.


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                                          Message 711 - Posted 17 Aug 2005 20:39:57 UTC

                                            634, 854, 1126, 1622, 1628
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                                            Message 713 - Posted 17 Aug 2005 22:41:05 UTC

                                              My two WUs
                                              <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=647">647</a>
                                              <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=616">616</a>
                                              were not yet corrected, too.
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                                              Message 714 - Posted 18 Aug 2005 1:52:31 UTC

                                                These last several posted wu's are old news...in the past.
                                                We have all 'wasted' more CPU time than all these put together.

                                                The exciting thing here is it seems the problem is solved for the future.
                                                I see no unexplained 0 credit for wu's issued yesterday or today.
                                                Maybe this small pain is over!
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                                                Message 716 - Posted 18 Aug 2005 16:17:53 UTC

                                                  I wasn't pleased with those e-mails either. It's against the rules on http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/info.php:
                                                  A SZTAKI Desktop Grid-ben való részvételhez meg kell adni egy e-mail címet, ahol fogadni tud leveleket.Ez az e-mail cím nem lesz látható a SZTAKI Desktop Grid weblapján, továbbá nem kerül külső szervezetek kezébe. A SZTAKI Desktop Grid időszakosan küldhet önnek híreket, de ön bármikor visszamondhatja ezeket.

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                                                  Message 718 - Posted 18 Aug 2005 18:05:32 UTC

                                                    I have at least one WU with no credit
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                                                    Message 729 - Posted 20 Aug 2005 11:29:35 UTC

                                                      | <i>It's against the rules... <i>

                                                      My apologize! It was absoultely my fault: forgot to change To-&gt;Bcc and I take all the responsibility for my deed.
                                                      Anyway, I hope and belive that all users of the Desktop Grid - especially who is concerned in this - are honest and in no cases will ever try to use other's mail address for any purpose!
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                                                      Message 747 - Posted 22 Aug 2005 15:56:01 UTC

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                                                        All the "pending" credits seem to have been granted, but all the "zero" credits from the 12th and 13th still show zero.
                                                        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=639">639</a>
                                                        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1089">1089</a>
                                                        <a href="http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1112">1112</a> are the ones I've been watching of mine.

                                                        For others, 328, 363, 371, 394, 421, 446, 472, 490, 505, 513, 522, 524, 529, 533, 534, 542, 555, 567, 568, 572, 574, 575, 576, 614, 616, 618, 640, 642, 637, 647, 781, 783, 811, 853, 892, 1101, 1186, 1378, 1478, 1481, 1521, 1522, 1538, 1549, 1552, 1561, 1566, 1573, 1586, 1591, 1594, 1614, 1624, 1626, 1628... those are the ones that were posted to the boards as having zero credit, that are still showing zero credit and appear to NEED credit; I'm sure there are others that have not been mentioned.

                                                        ("NEED" = someone got credit for a successful result - someone else did not; no deadline problem; no client error. If "too many results" means no credit, then nobody should get credit, it shouldn't give credit to some and no credit to others, unless their WU was unsuccessful for some reason.)

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                                                        Message 753 - Posted 22 Aug 2005 23:39:01 UTC

                                                          i would have these wus also
                                                          http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=363
                                                          http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=446
                                                          http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=469
                                                          http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=471 http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=473
                                                          http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1549
                                                          http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=1573


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                                                          Message 755 - Posted 23 Aug 2005 9:09:01 UTC

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                                                            I'll act upon these soon...don't worry

                                                            SZTAKI Desktop Grid: "The grid where noo credit is lost!" :)
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                                                            Message 815 - Posted 4 Sep 2005 1:58:25 UTC

                                                              bump

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                                                              Message 864 - Posted 11 Sep 2005 5:10:03 UTC

                                                                weekly bump...

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                                                                Message 866 - Posted 11 Sep 2005 12:38:44 UTC

                                                                  I have fixed this problem for the new WUs. Once a month I'll check the database and correct any problems, but it would take my life if I would check it after each complains. I didn't forgot it, Bill!
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                                                                  Message 869 - Posted 12 Sep 2005 0:43:51 UTC

                                                                    I bumped because the originally reported WUs from last month have not yet been awarded credit...

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                                                                    Message 945 - Posted 7 Oct 2005 22:47:07 UTC

                                                                      Adam, I assume you're not going to fix these? Or are you still going to act on them soon, as you said back in August?

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                                                                      Message 950 - Posted 9 Oct 2005 14:04:46 UTC

                                                                        Sorry, guys. This is meant to be fixed a long time ago, I just...alright it's my fault, I always had something more important. Hope I can squize some time for it soon.
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                                                                        Message 1082 - Posted 17 Nov 2005 22:55:41 UTC

                                                                          Hope I can squize some time for it soon.


                                                                          I realize you've been busy with the V5 upgrade and translation, but these still have not been fixed. Plus it's been over a week since we've had any information at all from the project, and after a fairly short work unit outage a few days ago, we've now been without work for almost two days... I'm getting the impression this project is about to go under?

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                                                                          Message 1083 - Posted 18 Nov 2005 0:23:42 UTC

                                                                            Heheh, no need to be THAT pessimistic. I don't think SZTAKI's about to go under. Upgrading to V5 must be quite a big deal, especially for a small non-english project like this.
                                                                            In my humble opinion I think it might take another week or two at the most before the upgrade is complete.

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                                                                            Message 1084 - Posted 18 Nov 2005 3:37:36 UTC

                                                                              Heheh, no need to be THAT pessimistic. I don't think SZTAKI's about to go under. Upgrading to V5 must be quite a big deal, especially for a small non-english project like this.
                                                                              In my humble opinion I think it might take another week or two at the most before the upgrade is complete.


                                                                              I would agree. Please give then whatever time is needed to do the upgrade. Even LHC goes without WUs for some days. But a word from the project would be usefull.


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                                                                              Message 1094 - Posted 18 Nov 2005 20:08:12 UTC

                                                                                The transalation was done 4 days ago and the project is ready to be upgared but for some unknown reason the update has not been applied yet
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                                                                                Message 1096 - Posted 18 Nov 2005 20:12:52 UTC

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                                                                                  Message 1098 - Posted 18 Nov 2005 20:26:50 UTC

                                                                                    Thats something I dont look at as it takes forever to load up on dialup just sat and waited for it to load up the thread took a few minutes well that expalins the lack of server upgrades.

                                                                                    Idiot bosses who are affecting the project.

                                                                                    Would be nice if the news page was updated when things happen or dont happen thats what it is there for
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                                                                                    Message 1214 - Posted 10 Dec 2005 3:51:29 UTC

                                                                                      Well, I guess they found ONE way to solve the problem - just delete all the results. So much for all the promises to give credit on them.

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