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Message 5579 - Posted 28 Jan 2007 18:55:10 UTC

    WU 10254 shows 233.74 credit claimed.
    But it doesn\'t show up in my pending credit for cpu 16967

    http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=10524


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    Message 5581 - Posted 29 Jan 2007 0:48:49 UTC - in response to Message 5579.

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      WU 10254 shows 233.74 credit claimed.
      But it doesn\'t show up in my pending credit for cpu 16967

      http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=10524


      To further our discussion from here, I noticed that several of the results from the above WU were restarted several times (and sometimes, several times from the same checkpoint). It struck me that this is very different from the behavior exhibited by \"Output is Empty\" WU\'s. That is, when \"Output is Empty\" WU\'s are restarted, they do not revert to a previous checkpoint, but instead, jump ahead to start processing the next line. That makes me wonder why this WU hasn\'t validated.

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      Message 5582 - Posted 29 Jan 2007 3:28:43 UTC - in response to Message 5581.

        ... That makes me wonder why this WU hasn\'t validated.


        Exactly.

        I was trying to raise that issue earlier when I noted that some WUs seem to reprocess the same line, while others skip to the next.

        But, I still don\'t understand why it isn\'t in the PENDING - let alone why it hasn\'t validated already.

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        Message 5589 - Posted 30 Jan 2007 2:30:55 UTC

          anyone?
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          Message 5594 - Posted 30 Jan 2007 16:08:41 UTC - in response to Message 5582.

            But, I still don\'t understand why it isn\'t in the PENDING - let alone why it hasn\'t validated already.


            I did some checking on my Results page and Pending page and found the following:

            Ten results are shown in my Pending list (and shown as pending in Results list) - all are \"initial\"

            Nine results are NOT shown in my Pending list but are shown as pending in my Results list - all are \"checked but no consensus\"

            I (hastily) conclude that once a WU reaches quorum, it is removed from the Pending lists, even though it may still be pending. -OR- The pending list shows only the WUs that are still \"initial\" and have not been checked. (I realize that both statements are saying basically the same thing) Any evidence to disprove this conclusion is welcome.
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            Message 5595 - Posted 30 Jan 2007 16:34:49 UTC - in response to Message 5594.

              Any evidence to disprove this conclusion is welcome.

              I\'m unable to disprove your conclusion. In my Results list there are 298 pending WUs of which 177 are in the Pending list. I checked randomly 25 WUs in my Pending list and they are all \"initial\". I checked also 25 WUs in my Results list (that are not in my Pending list) and they are all \"checked but no consensus\".
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              Message 5599 - Posted 30 Jan 2007 22:01:33 UTC - in response to Message 5595.

                Any evidence to disprove this conclusion is welcome.

                I\'m unable to disprove your conclusion. In my Results list there are 298 pending WUs of which 177 are in the Pending list. I checked randomly 25 WUs in my Pending list and they are all \"initial\". I checked also 25 WUs in my Results list (that are not in my Pending list) and they are all \"checked but no consensus\".


                hmm - another \"non-intuitive\" definition.

                I am reminded of the definition of \"success.\"

                Is there a message board at Boinc to suggest changing these ambiguous and contra-intuitive terms.
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                Message 5600 - Posted 31 Jan 2007 4:34:03 UTC - in response to Message 5599.

                  Is there a message board at Boinc to suggest changing these ambiguous and contra-intuitive terms.


                  Why, yes there are.

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