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Message 5963 - Posted 22 Mar 2007 11:47:55 UTC

    My Mac Intel got it\'s first work this morning. Thanks!

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    Message 5985 - Posted 26 Mar 2007 16:43:32 UTC

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      Indeed, it sounds that MacOsX Intel is supported since 20 march.

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      your feedback will be interesting ;)

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      Message 5987 - Posted 27 Mar 2007 2:00:59 UTC - in response to Message 5985.

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        Indeed, it sounds that MacOsX Intel is supported since 20 march.

        edit :
        your feedback will be interesting ;)


        It seems to be running flawlessly although it is at 35 hours at 40%.

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        Message 5988 - Posted 27 Mar 2007 6:35:07 UTC - in response to Message 5987.

          Looks like you have a Mac Pro, Jim, with a Xeon fpu of 2142 million/sec. And WU 161098 is at 40% after 35 hours, you say.

          Meanwhile, another member with that WU running a Pentium under Windows with an fpu of 1411 million sec, has completed the task in under 27 hours.

          So your Xeon chip\'s fpu is nominally 50% faster than the Pentium which might lead one to think that you should have been able to complete the WU in approximately 18 hours. But in twice that time, you are only 40% of the way.

          Yes, Sztaki have got that Mac app beautifully optimised!

          Harry
          (Whose Mac has been on \'No New Tasks\' since last October.)

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          Message 5989 - Posted 27 Mar 2007 11:26:34 UTC

            Mac/Intel is not \"officialy supported\" yet, i (or
            we ;) ) are only testing it. that\'s why there is
            no information about it on the forums or anywhere.

            There is no \'optimization\' in the binary, the
            source is just compiled on a mactel (c2d 2.16,
            10.4.9).

            But anyways, testers are always welcome ;) comments
            and feedback too.


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            Message 5990 - Posted 27 Mar 2007 11:47:34 UTC - in response to Message 5988.

              Looks like you have a Mac Pro, Jim, with a Xeon fpu of 2142 million/sec. And WU 161098 is at 40% after 35 hours, you say.

              Meanwhile, another member with that WU running a Pentium under Windows with an fpu of 1411 million sec, has completed the task in under 27 hours.

              So your Xeon chip\'s fpu is nominally 50% faster than the Pentium which might lead one to think that you should have been able to complete the WU in approximately 18 hours. But in twice that time, you are only 40% of the way.

              Yes, Sztaki have got that Mac app beautifully optimised!

              Harry
              (Whose Mac has been on \'No New Tasks\' since last October.)


              Harry,

              The relative Pentium numbers are why I mentioned it.

              I am not a real power user of BOINC, but what has worked for me in the past when there is a new app or version of an app is to detach then reattach to get new work.

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              Message 5991 - Posted 27 Mar 2007 11:49:06 UTC - in response to Message 5989.

                Mac/Intel is not \"officialy supported\" yet, i (or
                we ;) ) are only testing it. that\'s why there is
                no information about it on the forums or anywhere.

                There is no \'optimization\' in the binary, the
                source is just compiled on a mactel (c2d 2.16,
                10.4.9).

                But anyways, testers are always welcome ;) comments
                and feedback too.


                Attila


                Ah, good information.

                Thanks,
                Jim

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                Message 6009 - Posted 30 Mar 2007 13:15:44 UTC - in response to Message 5988.

                  Looks like you have a Mac Pro, Jim, with a Xeon fpu of 2142 million/sec. And WU 161098 is at 40% after 35 hours, you say.

                  Meanwhile, another member with that WU running a Pentium under Windows with an fpu of 1411 million sec, has completed the task in under 27 hours.

                  So your Xeon chip\'s fpu is nominally 50% faster than the Pentium which might lead one to think that you should have been able to complete the WU in approximately 18 hours. But in twice that time, you are only 40% of the way.

                  Yes, Sztaki have got that Mac app beautifully optimised!


                  The new app for MacTel should fix this issue and speed up things (same applies for linux and windows platform too). A new Mac/PowerPC version will come beginning next week.


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                  Message 6024 - Posted 1 Apr 2007 17:42:06 UTC - in response to Message 5989.

                    There is no \'optimization\' in the binary, the
                    source is just compiled on a mactel (c2d 2.16,
                    10.4.9).


                    No optimization? Why not? Unlike Windows or Linux, no legacy processor support is required with Mac Intel. The *oldest* chips is the Core Solo/Duo. Which means that all intel Macs support the following:

                    FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON VMX EST TM2 TPR

                    At a minimum, all intel Mac applications should be made to use SSE2, if not SSE3.
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                    Message 6025 - Posted 1 Apr 2007 17:54:51 UTC - in response to Message 6024.

                      There is no \'optimization\' in the binary, the
                      source is just compiled on a mactel (c2d 2.16,
                      10.4.9).


                      No optimization? Why not? Unlike Windows or Linux, no legacy processor support is required with Mac Intel. The *oldest* chips is the Core Solo/Duo. Which means that all intel Macs support the following:

                      FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON VMX EST TM2 TPR

                      At a minimum, all intel Mac applications should be made to use SSE2, if not SSE3.


                      70 hours at 80% and happily crunching away. I assume that the next download will use the new MacIntel app. From what I can tell right now anyway, there is no work to be downloaded, right?

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                      Message 6027 - Posted 1 Apr 2007 19:43:49 UTC - in response to Message 6025.

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                        70 hours at 80% and happily crunching away. I assume that the next download will use the new MacIntel app. From what I can tell right now anyway, there is no work to be downloaded, right?

                        Jim


                        if click \'update\' in Projects, the new app will be downloaded (v2.02)

                        Edit: or you\'ll get it at the next communication with the project

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                        Message 6028 - Posted 1 Apr 2007 19:54:40 UTC - in response to Message 6024.

                          There is no \'optimization\' in the binary, the
                          source is just compiled on a mactel (c2d 2.16,
                          10.4.9).


                          No optimization? Why not? Unlike Windows or Linux, no legacy processor support is required with Mac Intel. The *oldest* chips is the Core Solo/Duo. Which means that all intel Macs support the following:

                          FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM SSE3 MON VMX EST TM2 TPR

                          At a minimum, all intel Mac applications should be made to use SSE2, if not SSE3.


                          Currenty we have no optimization besides the \"-O2\" flag for gcc4. sure, will
                          be, just not now. This was just an update to fix the bug with the long
                          calculation problem.

                          The powerpc app update is comming next (this week).


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                          Message 7295 - Posted 15 Sep 2008 10:38:28 UTC

                            first post .. trying for first WU on mac Pro78i

                            Mon Sep 15 11:26:55 2008|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: platform \'x86_64-apple-darwin\' not found

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                            Message 7296 - Posted 15 Sep 2008 10:43:41 UTC

                              first post .. trying for first WU on mac Pro78i

                              Mon Sep 15 11:26:55 2008|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: platform \'x86_64-apple-darwin\' not found

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                              Message 7298 - Posted 15 Sep 2008 11:59:31 UTC - in response to Message 7296.

                                first post .. trying for first WU on mac Pro78i

                                Mon Sep 15 11:26:55 2008|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: platform \'x86_64-apple-darwin\' not found


                                Fixed, thanks for reporting !

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                                Message 7303 - Posted 15 Sep 2008 15:00:26 UTC - in response to Message 7298.

                                  first post .. trying for first WU on mac Pro78i

                                  Mon Sep 15 11:26:55 2008|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: platform \'x86_64-apple-darwin\' not found


                                  Fixed, thanks for reporting !

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                                  Great news! Has the same fix been applied for Windows 64 and Linux 64?
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                                  Message 7306 - Posted 15 Sep 2008 22:27:20 UTC - in response to Message 7303.

                                    first post .. trying for first WU on mac Pro78i

                                    Mon Sep 15 11:26:55 2008|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: platform \'x86_64-apple-darwin\' not found


                                    Fixed, thanks for reporting !

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                                    Great news! Has the same fix been applied for Windows 64 and Linux 64?


                                    The application is still 32-bit, but since Mac OS X has everything by default to execute both 32bit intel and 64bit intel code, we used the same 32bit executable for the new platform.

                                    It is not guaranteed on Linux that the 32bit compat libs are installed on a 64bit system, so we cannot add the platform (with the 32bit executable). I am no windows expert (all hail the mac!) so i cannot tell what is the situation there.

                                    Compiling 64 bit version of our application is out of scope for now, sorry ;( (it is not as simple as just compiling, we need to do serious testing and debugging, etc and we do not have the human resources now to do it ;( )


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                                    Message 7307 - Posted 16 Sep 2008 0:43:05 UTC

                                      Can you at least support sending 32 bit Windows app/work to 64 bit windows machines? Currently that does not happen.
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                                      Message 7344 - Posted 22 Sep 2008 16:17:19 UTC - in response to Message 7307.

                                        Hi,

                                        just to let you know, I\'ve just registered the 64-bit windows platform on the server.

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                                        Message 7360 - Posted 24 Sep 2008 17:53:05 UTC - in response to Message 7344.

                                          Hi,

                                          just to let you know, I\'ve just registered the 64-bit windows platform on the server.

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                                          Thanks! But I think there is still some problem. I am getting:

                                          Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found
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