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Message 7432 - Posted 13 Oct 2008 18:34:57 UTC

    10/13/2008 8:30:30 PM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found


    Could you please update the server software? Newer versions automatically send the 32bit app to 64bit clients.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Message 7440 - Posted 16 Oct 2008 1:15:10 UTC



      Yes yes yes....

      I think there is an easier fix for this.. Projects like RCN and many others send 32 bit apps to 64 bit hosts with no problem.


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      Message 7461 - Posted 22 Oct 2008 20:19:42 UTC

        Yet, the server still needs to recognize the platform strings for the 64-bit systems, windows_x86_64 and x86_64-pc-linux-gnu. Just update the server software, please.

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        Message 7497 - Posted 3 Nov 2008 0:36:05 UTC

          I would like to see this, too!
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          Message 7539 - Posted 15 Nov 2008 22:02:41 UTC

            Agreed! :-)
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            Message 7541 - Posted 15 Nov 2008 22:35:35 UTC

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              Definitely a need!

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              Message 7584 - Posted 2 Dec 2008 21:34:50 UTC

                I would like it also...

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                Message 7585 - Posted 7 Dec 2008 11:48:30 UTC

                  Seems no one cares about the 64 bit systems out there... :(
                  At least the have a 64 bit app for Intel Macs...
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                  Message 7586 - Posted 8 Dec 2008 16:42:41 UTC

                    Please fix the \"Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found\" problem.

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                    Message 7618 - Posted 2 Jan 2009 4:30:54 UTC - in response to Message 7461.

                      Yet, the server still needs to recognize the platform strings for the 64-bit systems, windows_x86_64 and x86_64-pc-linux-gnu. Just update the server software, please.

                      The better fix would be to recompile for 64-bit Linux and 64-bit Windows.

                      Because the project description looks like this project probably uses integer math (this is pure speculation on my part), the additional registers should allow the CPU to spend more time computing and less time moving data in and out of memory.

                      If I am wrong about this being an integer-based program and this program hogs the FPU, having a 64-bit version will allow speedups on some platforms with lame x87-style FPUs, like 64-bit capable Pentium 4s, because the SSE2 instruction set uses a standard register file instead of a register stack, which x87-style FPUs use. In the x87-style register stack, one must make sure that all operands for an operation are on the top of the stack, forcing assembly programmers and compilers to issue register swap instructions to reorder items in the FPU stack that do not meet this requirements. This operation takes zero cycles in an FPU that is designed to be efficient with its clock cycles like in the Pentium III but uses up cycles in a Pentium 4\'s FPU, which was engineered to make sacrifices to allow insane clock rates. In SSE2, which is guaranteed to be present in 64-bit x86 processors but not in 32-bit x86 processors, the assembly programmer or compiler can use any two registers at any time to do an operation. Also, there are 16 registers in an SSE2-style FPU running on 64-bit software, while there are only 8 registers each in the x87 stack and an SSE2-style FPU running on 32-bit software. Therefore, there should be a speedup because the FPU can spend more time computing and less time moving data in and out of memory.

                      Another reason to make 64-bit versions is that since SSE2 is guaranteed in 64-bit x86, SSE2 can accelerate certain matrix operations. Because the project description I linked above mentioned matrices, there is a chance that this project could be sped up by SSE2, no matter whether or not this uses integer or floating-point math because SSE2 can accelerate both types of math when the problem can be fit into SIMD-style computation.

                      This is why recompilation and maybe some optimization to fit the problem into SIMD-style math if possible are the best solutions.

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                      Message 7619 - Posted 2 Jan 2009 11:33:46 UTC

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                        Just ran in to this one as well after upgrading a machine to 64-bit OS . With this thread being almost 3 months old, and another thread about 64-bits linux being even older, guess I will not hold my breath waiting for a solution :-(


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                        Message 7717 - Posted 10 Feb 2009 5:10:17 UTC

                          BUMP! Please upgrade the server!
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                          Message 7720 - Posted 11 Feb 2009 10:20:46 UTC

                            It\'s a shame that no 32-bit apps and WUs are sent out to 64-bit clients! :-(((
                            And say nothing of any native 64-bit app...



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                            Message 7736 - Posted 17 Feb 2009 18:28:03 UTC

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                              Me too! I\'m part of about 20 projects, and every single one gives me work units for my 8-core x64 windows machine, excpet Sztaki! If the others are doing it it can\'t be a problem. Vista 64 runs 32 bit code after all....

                              My 8 cores are awaiting.....
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                              Message 7737 - Posted 17 Feb 2009 18:44:55 UTC - in response to Message 7736.

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                                Me too! I\'m part of about 20 projects, and every single one gives me work units for my 8-core x64 windows machine, excpet Sztaki! If the others are doing it it can\'t be a problem. Vista 64 runs 32 bit code after all....

                                My 8 cores are awaiting.....


                                Be careful what you wish for! Right now, SZTAKI seems to be having problems with x32 multi-core computers as well. (See this message.)
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                                Message 7738 - Posted 17 Feb 2009 20:58:40 UTC - in response to Message 7737.

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                                  Be careful what you wish for! Right now, SZTAKI seems to be having problems with x32 multi-core computers as well. (See this message.)

                                  I don\'t think that the validation problems have anything to do with multi-core.

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                                  Message 7739 - Posted 17 Feb 2009 21:17:52 UTC - in response to Message 7738.

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                                    Be careful what you wish for! Right now, SZTAKI seems to be having problems with x32 multi-core computers as well. (See this message.)

                                    I don\'t think that the validation problems have anything to do with multi-core.


                                    Maybe - but, I\'d like to see a \"zero\" from a single-core computer before conceding the point.

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                                    Message 7740 - Posted 18 Feb 2009 1:15:46 UTC - in response to Message 7739.

                                      Be careful what you wish for! Right now, SZTAKI seems to be having problems with x32 multi-core computers as well. (See this message.)

                                      I don\'t think that the validation problems have anything to do with multi-core.


                                      Maybe - but, I\'d like to see a \"zero\" from a single-core computer before conceding the point.

                                      Here\'s one:

                                      http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=2317853

                                      As you can see the 0 credit WU is from a single core machine.

                                      And another:

                                      http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=2321617

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                                      Message 7741 - Posted 18 Feb 2009 2:13:02 UTC - in response to Message 7740.

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                                        Maybe - but, I\'d like to see a \"zero\" from a single-core computer before conceding the point.

                                        Here\'s one:

                                        http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=2317853

                                        As you can see the 0 credit WU is from a single core machine.

                                        And another:

                                        http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/workunit.php?wuid=2321617


                                        AHA! These cases are the reverse of the others I\'ve seen. Here the multi=cores have the majorty (and the credit) and the lone single-cores got zero. This is definitely beginning to look like the same type of problem SZTAKI had a little more than year ago (and documeted in the Validation Problems - Windows vs. Linux thread). Same logic - just substitute single-core vs multi-core for the various OS combinations back then.

                                        EDIT: We should probably switch our discussion of this issue back to the Why no credit for this wu? thread.

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                                        Message 7743 - Posted 18 Feb 2009 6:59:28 UTC - in response to Message 7741.

                                          AHA! These cases are the reverse of the others I\'ve seen. Here the multi=cores have the majorty (and the credit) and the lone single-cores got zero. This is definitely beginning to look like the same type of problem SZTAKI had a little more than year ago (and documeted in the Validation Problems - Windows vs. Linux thread). Same logic - just substitute single-core vs multi-core for the various OS combinations back then.

                                          I really don\'t think the number of cores has anything to do with it. It doesn\'t fit the evidence and what would be the possible mechanism?

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                                          Message 7759 - Posted 23 Feb 2009 12:47:15 UTC

                                            Any fresh news about the x64 version?

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                                            Message 7762 - Posted 24 Feb 2009 14:47:09 UTC

                                              me too i would like to compute for this project with my 64bit vista computer...

                                              I think the project can boost up computation time with all the clients waiting with computers that have lot and lot of cpu time to share for this project...

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                                              Message 7787 - Posted 4 Mar 2009 19:35:18 UTC

                                                News please?
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                                                Message 7828 - Posted 8 Apr 2009 11:16:37 UTC

                                                  8. 4. 2009 13:12:23 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found

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                                                  Message 7837 - Posted 17 Apr 2009 13:38:38 UTC

                                                    Copy of news:
                                                    Apr 02, 2009.
                                                    The 32-bit versions of the Windows applications have been registered as 64-bit versions as well, until the native 64-bit compilations get ready.

                                                    Messages form my WinXP_64 host:

                                                    17/04/2009 15:33:36 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Resetting project
                                                    17/04/2009 15:33:40 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
                                                    17/04/2009 15:33:40 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Requesting new tasks
                                                    17/04/2009 15:33:45 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
                                                    17/04/2009 15:33:45 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found
                                                    17/04/2009 15:33:47 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Started download of stat_icon_02.gif
                                                    17/04/2009 15:33:48 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Finished download of stat_icon_02.gif


                                                    Where can i find the problem?

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                                                    Message 7841 - Posted 18 Apr 2009 18:52:32 UTC - in response to Message 7837.

                                                      Copy of news:
                                                      Apr 02, 2009.
                                                      The 32-bit versions of the Windows applications have been registered as 64-bit versions as well, until the native 64-bit compilations get ready.

                                                      Messages form my WinXP_64 host:

                                                      17/04/2009 15:33:36 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Resetting project
                                                      17/04/2009 15:33:40 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
                                                      17/04/2009 15:33:40 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Requesting new tasks
                                                      17/04/2009 15:33:45 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
                                                      17/04/2009 15:33:45 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found
                                                      17/04/2009 15:33:47 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Started download of stat_icon_02.gif
                                                      17/04/2009 15:33:48 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Finished download of stat_icon_02.gif


                                                      Where can i find the problem?



                                                      I have attached a couple Win-64 to this project and am getting the same problem.

                                                      I thought this had been corrected ?

                                                      Update Please?

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                                                      Message 7854 - Posted 2 May 2009 16:06:03 UTC

                                                        While you\'re at it, fixing the Win32bit application forwarding to Win64bit machines, could you please do the same for Linux machines?

                                                        Thanks in advance.

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                                                        Message 7855 - Posted 2 May 2009 23:28:35 UTC



                                                          This project is being managed as well as I remember it.

                                                          That would be NADDA.

                                                          It is suppose to be set and forget for our side, not the developers or project managers.

                                                          Whats the deal ?

                                                          Is anyone alive?
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                                                          Message 7865 - Posted 18 May 2009 3:50:30 UTC

                                                            Sun 17 May 2009 08:37:27 PM PDT|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: platform \'x86_64-pc-linux-gnu\' not found



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                                                            Message 7866 - Posted 18 May 2009 15:45:37 UTC

                                                              5/18/2009 11:32:11 AM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 506]

                                                              5/18/2009 11:32:11 AM|SZTAKI Desktop Grid|Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found

                                                              Come on already!

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                                                              Message 7892 - Posted 6 Jul 2009 17:34:55 UTC

                                                                06-Jul-2009 19:00:02 [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
                                                                06-Jul-2009 19:00:02 [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Requesting new tasks for CPU
                                                                06-Jul-2009 19:00:07 [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
                                                                06-Jul-2009 19:00:07 [SZTAKI Desktop Grid] Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found

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                                                                If someone of the project owner wants to get the computer power from all the 64bit users, he/she should update the servers asap. It can be that I forget to review this project in future again.

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                                                                Message 7893 - Posted 10 Jul 2009 12:43:44 UTC

                                                                  Taking into account how old this thread is yet I have almost no hope that I\'ll ever crunch for SZTAKI again as all my boxes have switched to a 64-bit OS meanwhile. ;-(((
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                                                                  Message 7900 - Posted 15 Aug 2009 21:09:54 UTC

                                                                    Any plans to fix this issue in the near future (i.e. in 2009 or at least in this century)? Otherwise you should at least remove \"Windows/x86_64\" from the application list to avoid confusion...

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                                                                    Message 7903 - Posted 28 Aug 2009 9:42:03 UTC

                                                                      I think:

                                                                      1. The admin does not read old topics. So he won\'t read this.

                                                                      2. He does not want to do some work so he can \"convert\" his personal changes in the boinc server code to something like an \"expansion\", so he can then change the server software easily without losing his precious code.

                                                                      and 3. he gives a shit about 64bit-OS-users with 64bit boinc. Even if he does not want to change the boinc-server-version, he could copy-and-paste the lines he needs from the source code of newer server versions and implement them into his \"special version\".

                                                                      Even if there are greater problems in implementing this, there are several ways to get some help, with the help of google i found 10 fora where the implementation of the boinc-server is well-written, and there is the boinc-dev mailing list etc etc etc...

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                                                                      Message 7917 - Posted 12 Oct 2009 15:48:54 UTC - in response to Message 7717.

                                                                        BUMP! Please upgrade the server!


                                                                        BUMP again! Another reason to upgrade the server here.
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                                                                        Message 7930 - Posted 23 Nov 2009 9:03:56 UTC

                                                                          hi!

                                                                          nekem 64bites windows7 oprendszerem van, és 64bitre készített BOINC-ot használok, viszont az elvégzett feladatokat nem tudja jelenteni, és ezeket az üzeneteket kapom:

                                                                          2009.11.22. 23:12:56 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
                                                                          2009.11.22. 23:12:56 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Reporting 3 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU
                                                                          2009.11.22. 23:13:06 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
                                                                          2009.11.22. 23:13:06 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Message from server: platform \'windows_x86_64\' not found

                                                                          szívesen dolgoztatnám a gépem új Sztaki feladatokon, de így nem megy.

                                                                          kérlek, oldjátok meg a problémát.
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                                                                          Message 7931 - Posted 23 Nov 2009 12:38:41 UTC

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                                                                            2009. október 13-a (ami inkább novemberbe volt) hetére jelentették be a szerver frissítést, ami a SZTAKI-nál (tekintettel a vezetők szavahihetőségére) kb. annyit jelent, hogy 2010 első negyedév vége, második negyedév eleje körül meg is fog valósulni. Fő a türelem!

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                                                                            Message 7932 - Posted 7 Dec 2009 14:56:00 UTC

                                                                              Looks like the server was finally upgraded!! So once it is working properly, I expect that our 64 bit machines will be able to get work.
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                                                                              Message 7933 - Posted 7 Dec 2009 20:18:56 UTC - in response to Message 7932.

                                                                                Looks like the server was finally upgraded!! So once it is working properly, I expect that our 64 bit machines will be able to get work.

                                                                                Host 316412, WinXP x64:

                                                                                07.12.2009 21:17:16 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Requesting new tasks for CPU
                                                                                07.12.2009 21:17:21 SZTAKI Desktop Grid Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks

                                                                                It is working now. ;)

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                                                                                Message 7934 - Posted 7 Dec 2009 20:42:35 UTC

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                                                                                  Message 7935 - Posted 7 Dec 2009 22:05:49 UTC

                                                                                    Linux x86-64 now attaches: http://szdg.lpds.sztaki.hu/szdg/show_host_detail.php?hostid=316043.

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